White House relents on warrantless spying

[OzmO]

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/3f2d4ad6-a662-11db-937f-0000779e2340.html


Comments?

[Hugo Chavez]

Quite frankly, I don't believe a word of it from the master of doublespeek.  While we're all looking at this reversal, they just went another route to get what they want, I guarantee it...

[Dos Equis]

Good compromise.  Good decision. 

[OzmO]

After just skimming it (the article) it seems like a good compromise to me.  But i'm interested in everyone's view on the matter and why they feel the way they do.

[sandycoosworth]

come on boys, this is simply lipservice

how spying works is canada spys on the US, UK spies on Canada, Aus spies on UK... so on and so forth ... its a chain of information and it is all perfectly legal

[240 is Back]

I'm interested in how many people here, who were blindly defending Bush's use of warrantless wiretaps and non-inform searches a few months back, are suddenly saying "Great compromise, smart move, boss!"

[Dos Equis]

After just skimming it (the article) it seems like a good compromise to me.  But i'm interested in everyone's view on the matter and why they feel the way they do.

I understand the rationale behind the warrantless spying on suspected terrorists, but I don't like the idea of no judicial oversight.  It shouldn't be that difficult for the gov. to articulate to a judge why they need to spy on an individual or group, so long as they don't compromise national security.

[OzmO]

I'm interested in how many people here, who were blindly defending Bush's use of warrantless wiretaps and non-inform searches a few months back, are suddenly saying "Great compromise, smart move, boss!"

BB never did support wire tapping with out judicial approval.   If i remember it right it was one of the first discussions i had with him.  That's one of the reasons i've never viewed BB as an extreme conservative but rather more of a practical conservative

[Dos Equis]

BB never did support wire tapping with out judicial approval.   If i remember it right it was one of the first discussions i had with him.  That's one of the reasons i've never viewed BB as an extreme conservative but rather more of a practical conservative

Correct.   

[240 is Back]

I understand the rationale behind the warrantless spying on suspected terrorists, but I don't like the idea of no judicial oversight.  It shouldn't be that difficult for the gov. to articulate to a judge why they need to spy on an individual or group, so long as they don't compromise national security.

I agree!

BB never did support wire tapping with out judicial approval.   If i remember it right it was one of the first discussions i had with him.  That's one of the reasons i've never viewed BB as an extreme conservative but rather more of a practical conservative

I was actually thinking about our neocon bastards who could witness a white house staff member clobbering an old lady with a shovel and they'd find a way to defend it.  The delusional ones!

[sandycoosworth]

i think you mean the intense ones

[24KT]

...the intensely delusional ones 

[24KT]

Now the next question you must all ask is "When does the current authorization expire?"