is this a good shot?

[Necrosis]

i never actually looked at this pic, but its apparently the most famous ever. from a non-biased perspective, he is huge with a full thick chest, even with arms raised and great calves.

but in reality, his quads suck, with not much size, poor seperation and no shape to call there own. his biceps look like they belong to two different guys, with his forarm on the left side dwarfing his right bicep. shit his biceps even connect different. and his upper body is way too big for his lower body.

yates does have some great shots, particularly the lower lat shots. however, this is suppose to be one of the all time best shots? does anyone actually agree and if so why. try to be as non-biased as possible.

[JOHN MATRIX]

yes, that is a good shot

[benjamin pearson]

Though his one bicep is noticeably smaller I for one think he looks great.... Hes very well conditioned and has awesome calves...... His legs look good in that pic imo

[tommywishbone]

It's one of the best 10 bodybuilding pictures ever taken. The end.

[Necrosis]

i think he looks great too, but in bodybuilding no. there are way too many flaws. the thickness and density is crazy but the proportion,detail,symmetry and shape are lagging badly.

[njflex]

It's one of the best 10 bodybuilding pictures ever taken. The end.

absolutley,though his leg's were going down from their each year,except calve's which were amazing.his leg's were big ,but long looking never got full and round like say branch,due to height i guess.those shot's he had everything in spade's,not asthetic but rock hard mass that looked like every pound he weighed.

[kiwiol]

i never actually looked at this pic, but its apparently the most famous ever. from a non-biased perspective, he is huge with a full thick chest, even with arms raised and great calves.

but in reality, his quads suck, with not much size, poor seperation and no shape to call there own. his biceps look like they belong to two different guys, with his forarm on the left side dwarfing his right bicep. shit his biceps even connect different. and his upper body is way too big for his lower body.

yates does have some great shots, particularly the lower lat shots. however, this is suppose to be one of the all time best shots? does anyone actually agree and if so why. try to be as non-biased as possible.

Front double biceps wasn't Dorian's best pose, but from the same series, here's another pic showcasing one of his best poses (his best one IMO) that also qualifies the picture as one of the best pics ever, shot by one of the best photographers (Kevin Horton)

I know there's another version of this pic (slightly bigger) that looks even more impressive than this.

[Necrosis]

please no ronnie pics. kiwi the upper body looks great in that pic but wouldnt you say the quads are piss poor, i mean they have no seperation, or sweep and real size for a bodybuilder. barely legal sex meat has bigger quads. his calves are too big. the upper body in the lat spread is super thick.

[JOHN MATRIX]

dorian had the bestfront lat of all time, no one has ever had thicker lats

[Necrosis]

dorian had the bestfront lat of all time, no one has ever had thicker lats

dude try to be as non-biased as possible. the upper body is great the lower not so much. cant see how that could be the best. theres was one pic of dorian doing a front lat and his lats were crazy huge. i think he flexes his lats alot more, while some guys contract the chest.


please no ronnie pics, just want to throw that out there.

[kiwiol]

please no ronnie pics. kiwi the upper body looks great in that pic but wouldnt you say the quads are piss poor, i mean they have no separation, or sweep and real size for a bodybuilder. barely legal sex meat has bigger quads. his calves are too big. the upper body in the lat spread is super thick.

I wouldn't call them piss poor, even taking into account his incredible upper body development (and calves). A little more separation couldn't have hurt him but I think that's due to him training very intensely and not have enough volume in his training, which is what would give you separation. I think Ronnie's genetic freakishness was even more compounded by his high volume training, which is why he has a lot more separations, everywhere.

[Necrosis]

I wouldn't call them piss poor, even taking into account his incredible upper body development (and calves). A little more separation couldn't have hurt him but I think that's due to him training very intensely and not have enough volume in his training, which is what would give you separation. I think Ronnie's genetic freakishness was even more compounded by his high volume training, which is why he has a lot more separations, everywhere.

yes i generally agree. i just dont think that pic is amazing from a criteria perspective but the density is crazy. he looks thick as hell, and has a branch type density.

[kiwiol]

yes i generally agree. i just dont think that pic is amazing from a criteria perspective but the density is crazy. he looks thick as hell, and has a branch type density.

Yep, his density, hardness, conditioning and mass is what enabled him to win over the likes of K Lo and Flex. And even though most people say Dorian wasn't aesthetic, I think that he set the standards in a lot of poses and his signature poses looked so impressive, that there hasn't been anyone who can / has outdone him in those. I actually think that Dorian's physique was very Herculean, screaming brutal strength and power as opposed to guys like Arnold or Flex who were more Apollonian. Dorian is the perfect embodiment of the concept 'bodybuilder' and IMO, is the greatest bodybuilder of them all, even better than Arnold whom I don't dislike.

[pobrecito]

Yep, his density, hardness, conditioning and mass is what enabled him to win over the likes of K Lo and Flex. And even though most people say Dorian wasn't aesthetic, I think that he set the standards in a lot of poses and his signature poses looked so impressive, that there hasn't been anyone who can / has outdone him in those. I actually think that Dorian's physique was very Herculean, screaming brutal strength and power as opposed to guys like Arnold or Flex who were more Apollonian. Dorian is the perfect embodiment of the concept 'bodybuilder' and IMO, is the greatest bodybuilder of them all, even better than Arnold whom I don't dislike.

Kiwol,

Have you read "Blood and Guts"? I have a new appreciation for Yates after reading his book. He was so meticulous, in everything. He embodied everything a bodybuilder should be. Puts a lot of credence to McGough's stories about Yates' even frowning upon having a few sips of wine on New Year's.

[tommywishbone]

Remember too; the huge impact those pics had when they came out. I very clearly remember being shown that issue of Flex, at the front desk at Gold's Venice. I was  standing there just shaking my head looking at those pics. 1 minute later Flex And Dillet walked up to the counter and looked over my shoulder and they were both stunned.

At the time McGough took those shots, they were so far ahead of anything anybody had seen, it was hard to believe they were real.

Great pictures, all of them.

[kiwiol]

Kiwol,

Have you read "Blood and Guts"? I have a new appreciation for Yates after reading his book. He was so meticulous, in everything. He embodied everything a bodybuilder should be. Puts a lot of credence to McGough's stories about Yates' even frowning upon having a few sips of wine on New Year's.

No I haven't read that book. I think it was mainly written by Peter McGough (a terrific journalist and an even greater writer) with Yates chiming in every now and then. But I've read and heard accounts of people who knew Yates and even though you can't believe everything you read, I could gather enough from a lot of what was said and wrote to know /  realise that Dorian is a legend who raised the status of the Mr Olympia title by winning it.

[kiwiol]

Remember too; the huge impact those pics had when they came out. I very clearly remember being shown that issue of Flex, at the front desk at Gold's Venice. I was  standing there just shaking my head looking at those pics. 1 minute later Flex And Dillet walked up to the counter and looked over my shoulder and they were both stunned.

At the time McGough took those shots, they were so far ahead of anything anybody had seen, it was hard to believe they were real.

Great pictures, all of them.

Nice anecdote, but FYI, it was Kevin Horton who shot those, not McGough, who actually penned the article based on those pics.

[tommywishbone]

Thanks kiwiol. For some reason, I think I've always credited those pics to McGough. Anyhoo...


I've always loved the black doughnut style socks and the rubbish on the floor. Classic.

[arce377]

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[The Heckler]

i never actually looked at this pic, but its apparently the most famous ever. from a non-biased perspective, he is huge with a full thick chest, even with arms raised and great calves.

but in reality, his quads suck, with not much size, poor seperation and no shape to call there own. his biceps look like they belong to two different guys, with his forarm on the left side dwarfing his right bicep. shit his biceps even connect different. and his upper body is way too big for his lower body.

yates does have some great shots, particularly the lower lat shots. however, this is suppose to be one of the all time best shots? does anyone actually agree and if so why. try to be as non-biased as possible.

epic posing in brown "old man" socks

[chainsaw]

Remember too; the huge impact those pics had when they came out. I very clearly remember being shown that issue of Flex, at the front desk at Gold's Venice. I was  standing there just shaking my head looking at those pics. 1 minute later Flex And Dillet walked up to the counter and looked over my shoulder and they were both stunned.

At the time McGough took those shots, they were so far ahead of anything anybody had seen, it was hard to believe they were real.

Great pictures, all of them.

I remember 5 yrs ago seeing dorian at golds.  he was so skinny, that my wife had to tell me that it was him...  I was blown away!  I had to identify him by his tattoo's.