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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2007, 09:48:27 AM »
Hey dumbass..I've got friends in Walter Reed getting treatment....so shut the hell up. Don't u have a brother in the service?

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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2007, 09:50:11 AM »
Hopefully after the politicking is done some real change will be put in place. The fact that we don't support these soldiers more is a disgrace. And I mean all of us regardless of political affiliation.

When my Dad was diagnosed with Lung Cancer he was being treated at the VA in Dedham. As soon as we could we transferred him to Dana Farber. The VA was not even remotely comparable to Dana Farber and Brigham and Women's Hospital.

Exactly right the VA isn't great by any means but it is free. That is why it sucks, and a prime example of what would happen if we tried to have free medical for everyone.
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2007, 09:58:04 AM »
You don't hear things like this happening at Wilford Hall (Air Force equilivant to Reed).

I've always considered Bethesda to be the flagship of military medicine, but a lot of people are really high on Wilford Hall, you are correct. 

Walter Reed is in a worse part of town than the others.  heh heh

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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2007, 11:22:09 AM »
The fact that Army medical care blows only comes to the forefront now that shot up soldiers are complaining..but the medical care throughout the army sucks balls..from the day you are inducted in to the day you go to a VA hospital the service sucks...you are a drag on the system if you are hurt, ill, or injured...either that or they call you a malingerer---the one quote we always stuck by in the army was..''don't get hurt'', cause they don't give a flyin' shit.
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2007, 01:00:29 PM »
You will find that the treatment of the troops is based upon the service they are in. The Army stands out as poor when it comes to quality of life. But it isn't the WHOLE government. In the other branches things are much better. You don't hear things like this happening at Wilford Hall (Air Force equilivant to Reed).

The point is, it goes to the basic 6 P's of life "Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance".
Again, there was no preparation for after Sadaam was removed from power.

You would think that after Katrina, all government bueracracies would attempt to get a grip on their performances.
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2007, 01:12:27 PM »
The point is, it goes to the basic 6 P's of life "Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance".
Again, there was no preparation for after Sadaam was removed from power.

You would think that after Katrina, all government bureaucracies would attempt to get a grip on their performances.
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In the over-weight bureaucracy called the US government,  it seems like the only time you see change is when something like this happens. 

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2007, 03:06:10 PM »
In the over-weight bureaucracy called the US government,  it seems like the only time you see change is when something like this happens. 

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"

That happens anywhere, if you own a restaurant and the health guy says he will be there on friday, you do a major cleaning right? It isn't the normal way things are done except when the inspector comes. Government isn't any different.
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2007, 03:17:30 PM »
That happens anywhere, if you own a restaurant and the health guy says he will be there on friday, you do a major cleaning right? It isn't the normal way things are done except when the inspector comes. Government isn't any different.

Yes, but there's a big difference between a restaurant and a hospital. 

People choose to go to a place to eat.  Usually the restaurant will aways be up to certain standard regardless.  That's the beauty of capitalism.  The Hospital wasn't in competition for patients.

These guys did not have a choice unless they wanted to pay it for themselves.


I certainly hope you are attempting to defend this hospital.    We are talking about common decency and correct treatment of people who have made a huge sacrifice for this country and to trivialize it in the category of:

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That happens anywhere, if you own a restaurant and the health guy says he will be there on friday, you do a major cleaning right? It isn't the normal way things are done except when the inspector comes. Government isn't any different.


I'm sure you weren't trying to trivialize it or put into a perspective of them having to accept poor treatment because that's just the way things are.

It's disrespectful to both the soldiers and their families.

That hospital and the way it was run was a travesty to the medical profession and disgraceful to the government and insulting to the people who had to get treatment there.

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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2007, 05:10:53 AM »

I'm sure you weren't trying to trivialize it or put into a perspective of them having to accept poor treatment because that's just the way things are.

It's disrespectful to both the soldiers and their families.

That hospital and the way it was run was a travesty to the medical profession and disgraceful to the government and insulting to the people who had to get treatment there.

Walk into one Army hospital that isn't in the same or worse shape. Come here to Ft. Leonard Wood and check it out, You would forget about Reed
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2007, 05:37:12 AM »
Oh man..Leonard Wood is by far the worst i've been in...I sat there for 3 weeks waiting for my medical records to be found only to find out they were sitting on some docs pile of newspapers...what a mess fort lost in the woods is...
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2007, 07:28:29 AM »
Walk into one Army hospital that isn't in the same or worse shape. Come here to Ft. Leonard Wood and check it out, You would forget about Reed

that is so too bad.



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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2007, 09:05:02 AM »
that is so too bad.



Why is this MM69?

I don't know really. I am Air Force stationed at an Army post so it is all a shock to me. The Army is by far the worst when dealing with personnel issues. Their quality of life takes a back seat to the mission. All I know is an AF base would never be like this place.
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2007, 09:09:12 AM »
I don't know really. I am Air Force stationed at an Army post so it is all a shock to me. The Army is by far the worst when dealing with personnel issues. Their quality of life takes a back seat to the mission. All I know is an AF base would never be like this place.

I'm an Air Force Brat.  Their hospitals were always great.  So  it's just an Army thing?

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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2007, 09:12:33 AM »
I'm an Air Force Brat.  Their hospitals were always great.  So  it's just an Army thing?

From my experience yes. You can't imagine the difference
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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2007, 09:39:28 AM »
The pay is the same, but all the cushy military jobs are in the Air Force. 

I never understood why the AF had all the coolest, newest facilities (compare Air Force base housing to the Army and Navy, for example), but that's just the way things were.  Almost makes ya wonder why anyone would enlist in the Army instead of the Air Force. 


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Re: Walter Reed Commanders Admit Fault
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2007, 09:45:39 AM »
The pay is the same, but all the cushy military jobs are in the Air Force. 

I never understood why the AF had all the coolest, newest facilities (compare Air Force base housing to the Army and Navy, for example), but that's just the way things were.  Almost makes ya wonder why anyone would enlist in the Army instead of the Air Force. 



Simple really, the Army is about 70/30, 70% weren't accepted in the Air Force because of lack of education and the other 30% would have been accepted but are in the Army out of family pride/tradition
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