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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2007, 11:29:20 AM »
Good! Now abandon Islam and read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins. It's a great book where religion and belief in a supernatural figure is picked apart. Dawkins is critical of judaism, christianity and islam. It's a great read and I recommend you to read it.
may pick it up at the library... have you read books in favor of religon and God? If not, I reccomend you pick one up to read so you can have a balanced view of both sides. Remember that there is a LOT that we don't know, actaully I would say that human beings dont know very much at all... you will find that there's more to it all than u currently think  :)
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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2007, 11:44:56 AM »
may pick it up at the library... have you read books in favor of religon and God? If not, I reccomend you pick one up to read so you can have a balanced view of both sides. Remember that there is a LOT that we don't know, actaully I would say that human beings dont know very much at all... you will find that there's more to it all than u currently think  :)

Well said, haider! 

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2007, 12:34:56 PM »
may pick it up at the library... have you read books in favor of religon and God? If not, I reccomend you pick one up to read so you can have a balanced view of both sides. Remember that there is a LOT that we don't know, actaully I would say that human beings dont know very much at all... you will find that there's more to it all than u currently think  :)

There's nothing to look at when it's all based on simple assumptions and speculation.

Of course there's a lot human beings don't and wont know, but it doesn't mean we have to go about making fairy tales of some supernatural figure who knows all and created all.  ::)

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2007, 07:49:24 PM »
There's nothing to look at when it's all based on simple assumptions and speculation.

Of course there's a lot human beings don't and wont know, but it doesn't mean we have to go about making fairy tales of some supernatural figure who knows all and created all.  ::)
STFU.

Pick up a book in favor of God.

Just being jokingly harsh bud, I'm telling you... there's a lot out there. You're in for a surprise  8)
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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2007, 04:56:38 PM »
STFU.

Pick up a book in favor of God.

Just being jokingly harsh bud, I'm telling you... there's a lot out there. You're in for a surprise  8)

if you speculate enough there's a lot out there for everything. Books on god all focus on one thing and that's "oh god can't be disproven." The one's disputing natural selection aren't worth looking at, as giving them the attention they crave only strengthens their gullibility.

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2007, 08:36:58 AM »
Well they say that since dinosaurs aren't mentioned in the bible, they never really existed, since the bible is gospel and cannot be questioned, thus they are put here by God to test our faith in-you guessed it, the bible.



Of course, there is the minor fact that the term "dinosaur" was coined some 200 years AFTER the Bible was translated into English (King James Version).


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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2007, 12:36:15 PM »
It has been said that the Dinosaurs were the demons that were cast down and locked up---these are their bones....


Yet, It would be funny seeing a pack of Raptors chasing someone down the street. I think if dinos did exist today (outside of the Congo River Basin), it would force humans being to be more alert, far more fit, and have lighting quick reflexes. 

Evolution is a splendid thing: The reason we have larger, higher functioning brains than any other animal...If dinosaurs did exist today we would have them in zoo's just like all the other animals and they would most likely be on the endangered species list no doubt....
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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2007, 02:56:57 PM »
i mean we have fossels and they ruled this planet for longer than mankind has been around...



why why why?



now for ya muslims ..christians..and jews..if you ARE gionna gimme some proof ..

dont let it be ...obscure k..

g;luck :)

The authors of the Bible didn't know anything about Dinosaurs. The science of archeology did not exist 2,000 years ago. The first dinosaur fossils were recognized as such only as recent as the nineteenth century and before that, no one knew what the bones were even if they found them. People living 2,000 years ago such as the Greeks might of interpreted the dinosaur bones as bones of Giants.

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2007, 08:56:24 AM »
if you speculate enough there's a lot out there for everything. Books on god all focus on one thing and that's "oh god can't be disproven." The one's disputing natural selection aren't worth looking at, as giving them the attention they crave only strengthens their gullibility.

you dont know what your talking about. theology doesnt attack evolution. read a book. stop the ignorance.

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2007, 01:46:51 PM »
i mean we have fossels and they ruled this planet for longer than mankind has been around...



why why why?



now for ya muslims ..christians..and jews..if you ARE gionna gimme some proof ..

dont let it be ...obscure k..

g;luck :)

I am not a hard core religious guy...but the bible does make mention in the Creation story of massive sea creatures or soemthing or other. If you belive as I do that the bible was really just a guide used to control the masses and it uses many metaphors, the strange thing about the creation story is that they actually get...metaphorically...t he order of evolution correct. That is the truly amazing thing about it to me. For example, in the beginning there was nohting but dust etc...then the light (sunlight)...then the water...then it was teaming with life...then there were massive creature...etc. etc...and humans were last. Those who belive it word for word think that is literally seven days. I tend to think they were trying to explain millions of years of evolution in a simple manner to uneducated barbarians...so they made millions of years a metaphor of one day...the order is correct though which is wierd.
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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2007, 02:02:02 PM »
Unless you know the Hebrew and Koine Greek versions then you really have no business making assumptions about what this or that means in the Bible. Many things in the bible that were translated into the KJV or NIV or NLT were incorrectly translated from their original languages. One important example is the idea that Jesus' mother, Mary, was a virgin. This is incorrect translation from Hebrew to Greek then to English.

The precise words in Hebrew were...

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Isaiah 7:14
Hinneh ha almah harah ve yeldeth ben ve karath shem o immanuel.
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Behold, the young woman has conceived — and bears a son and calls his name Immanuel.

The Greek translators accidentally translated the Hebrew word "almah" (Young woman) into the Greek word parthenos (Virgin).

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2007, 07:33:03 PM »
i mean we have fossels and they ruled this planet for longer than mankind has been around...



why why why?



now for ya muslims ..christians..and jews..if you ARE gionna gimme some proof ..

dont let it be ...obscure k..

g;luck :)

The answer is simple - they didn't know about dinosaurs when those books were written.

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2007, 08:08:47 PM »
The answer is simple - they didn't know about dinosaurs when those books were written.


ahhh but the koran is the direct word of god....god dosen't know fo dinasours??

and jesus is god no..so he should know.....wait no he's human..noo he's god..well he died so he cant be..well wait..err..? 

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thanx fot taking the bait!   :)
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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2007, 08:12:46 PM »
Yes well not all of us believe that it is the direct word of god.

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2007, 09:17:04 PM »
Yes well not all of us believe that it is the direct word of god.

i didn't say i believe it either.. :-\

neither do i believe that jesus ws actually god...lol..


i'm an athiest..

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2007, 09:32:42 PM »
It's ignorant to believe that the Bible is the "direct word of God" especially when most of the books of the bible say no such thing. The verses that say "all is inspired by God" are separate books which were never meant to be put together or canonized. People often read the Bible as if it were one single book. However the truth is, it's dozens of books written by separate people over a period of 1,000 years most of whom never knew each other. This is one of the main reasons we find contradictions between the various books of the Bible. They were never meant to be put into one single book and read as if written by a single author.

Moreover, There are numerous other books with just as much validity which aren't contained in the Bible due to the early church declaring them heretical.

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2007, 10:20:06 PM »
It's ignorant to believe that the Bible is the "direct word of God" especially when most of the books of the bible say no such thing. The verses that say "all is inspired by God" are separate books which were never meant to be put together or canonized. People often read the Bible as if it were one single book. However the truth is, it's dozens of books written by separate people over a period of 1,000 years most of whom never knew each other. This is one of the main reasons we find contradictions between the various books of the Bible. They were never meant to be put into one single book and read as if written by a single author.

Moreover, There are numerous other books with just as much validity which aren't contained in the Bible due to the early church declaring them heretical.

So it's just an arbitrary collection of text which have nothing to do with God ;D

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Re: Why the koran bible and torah never mention the dinanours?
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2007, 10:28:07 PM »
So it's just an arbitrary collection of text which have nothing to do with God ;D

Well it's not 'arbitrary'. It was put together by the early Christian church. The Christians at the start didn't have any sort of "Bible" for themselves and only had the Hebrew bible (now the old testament books) and oral traditions which they eventually "canonized" into what we now know as the New testament.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Canon#Canonic_texts
Different Christian sects have different books in their Bibles. For instance the Catholic old testament has the Book of Baruch included in it but the Protestant Old Testament doesn't.

Also, We're talking about religious books here so all of them "have to do with God". They were written by incredibly religious individuals and the subject of the books are almost entirely about religion. None of them were written by or inspired by "God" though.