See, Tre? Black Conservatives REALLY DO Exist.

[Tre]

Most of my black friends are registered Democrats with strong conservative Christian values yet support tax and spend liberal Democrats.

Still scratching my head over that.

In all fairness though the Republican party has lost it's way.

I'm from the South.  Most of my family are registered Democrats, yet tend to vote Republican in the national elections.

My mother, who is from the North, is a registered Republican. 

I registered as a Republican when I was 18 and supported the GOP for most of my 20s.  I'm a registered Independent now. 

[Parker]

I'm with you on WE Dubois and the Benjamin "the Sable Astronomer" and WEB Dubois, but I don't have any respect for militant mindsets like Malcom X (who slept with his fair share of white women too, but I guess you don't acknowledge that) or France Fanon. 

I guess this means you are of a militant mindset.

Militant, somewhat, but I see the pitfalls of Malcolm X and France Fanon, I liked oratory skills, and the way he was willing to study and debate in prison. I like how he changed from being a thug, to someone who could eloquently put words together, but still had fire.

I acknowledge Malcolm's little tryst withe blonde, but he got locked up for it. And France Fanon, his theories are great, but his personal life reflected his self-hatred.

I like to see things from all perspectives, I take what I like and disregard what I don't need. No one person has all the answers.

but, I can tell you one theory that I have as to the reason why nobody has really said anything to Jeese or Al. It is because they are Reverends. And in the AF. Am. comm, you don't say jack about a "man of God". Rev have been used to either control the populace (black) or quell insurrection. But because MLK was a Rev, there is this close assoc with the black church and Civil rights....something that people are scared to question, out loud.

[Colossus_500]

but, I can tell you one theory that I have as to the reason why nobody has really said anything to Jeese or Al. It is because they are Reverends. And in the AF. Am. comm, you don't say jack about a "man of God". Rev have been used to either control the populace (black) or quell insurrection. But because MLK was a Rev, there is this close assoc with the black church and Civil rights....something that people are scared to question, out loud.

You may very well be right on this notion.  These two "Christians" (Jackson and Sharpton) epitomize the hypocrisy of the name at which they label themselves.

[Tre]

but, I can tell you one theory that I have as to the reason why nobody has really said anything to Jeese or Al. It is because they are Reverends. And in the AF. Am. comm, you don't say jack about a "man of God". Rev have been used to either control the populace (black) or quell insurrection. But because MLK was a Rev, there is this close assoc with the black church and Civil rights....something that people are scared to question, out loud.

That's part of it, but Jesse and Al are also 'protected' by The Man.

[Parker]

That's part of it, but Jesse and Al are also 'protected' by The Man.

I have this suspicion that Jesse had a slight hand in MLK's demise....He gained a lot, and he was a young firebrand, just like Farrakhan was. ANd we all know who Farrakhan was fanning the flames for...

But, Colossus_500. I wanted to say, because I think you misunderstood me.  I have no qualms about black men with white women. I think it is ironic that Clarence Thomas talks about "electronic lynching", yet there he is with a white woman, which not so long ago a black man would be lynched for being with.

Anita Hill was a lot more prettier than his wife.... 

[24KT]

Most of my black friends are registered Democrats with strong conservative Christian values yet support tax and spend liberal Democrats.

Still scratching my head over that.

In all fairness though the Republican party has lost it's way.

If they are anything like a huge majority of the various ethnicities that comprise Canadian society, it's really very simple. While many of us may be fiscally conservative, we don't give a poop that the party who purports to stand for that is full of a bunch of priviledged elitists whose sole aim to maintain the status quo on their elitism. The right wing parties up here could have simply been named the KKK party, as many of their candidates seeking office were found to be members, and /or have said things that would strongly suggest membership in these types of organizations, ...or having shown they don't get it. It's not hard to spot those who don't get it. Half the time they don't even know they don't get it, ...but to those who do... it's obvious they don't. 

[w8tlftr]

If they are anything like a huge majority of the various ethnicities that comprise Canadian society, it's really very simple. While many of us may be fiscally conservative, we don't give a poop that the party who purports to stand for that is full of a bunch of priviledged elitists whose sole aim to maintain the status quo on their elitism. The right wing parties up here could have simply been named the KKK party, as many of their candidates seeking office were found to be members, and /or have said things that would strongly suggest membership in these types of organizations, ...or having shown they don't get it. It's not hard to spot those who don't get it. Half the time they don't even know they don't get it, ...but to those who do... it's obvious they don't. 

There are a lot of liberals that fall into that category. The Clintons, Gores, and Edwards to name a few. I also know there are lots of "conservatives" that fall into that group too.

BTW, in my personal exerience it's always the so-called open minded liberals that were racists. Always so quick to toss me into group of people based on my skin color and ethnic background under the guise of "equal opportunity" - it's insulting. The conservatives I've met in my life are the ones that gave me the chances to prove myself and succeed based on my skills and record of performance.

[24KT]

There are a lot of liberals that fall into that category. The Clintons, Gores, and Edwards to name a few. I also know there are lots of "conservatives" that fall into that group too.

BTW, in my personal exerience it's always the so-called open minded liberals that were racists. Always so quick to toss me into group of people based on my skin color and ethnic background under the guise of "equal opportunity" - it's insulting. The conservatives I've met in my life are the ones that gave me the chances to prove myself and succeed based on my skills and record of performance.

Liberals in the US must be different from those in Canada, ...but I know the experiences you are referring to.

[Camel Jockey]

BTW, in my personal exerience it's always the so-called open minded liberals that were racists. Always so quick to toss me into group of people based on my skin color and ethnic background under the guise of "equal opportunity" - it's insulting. The conservatives I've met in my life are the ones that gave me the chances to prove myself and succeed based on my skills and record of performance.

True conservatives for the most part are honest folks. I lean pretty conservative on certain issues, but liberal on others. Sometimes when I display conservative stances irl people are shocked and usually give me heat for it, as though because of my skin color I'm supposed to be a appologist pussy.

If republicans weren't worried about jebus and abortions and actually stuck to REAL conservatives issues that people actually care about, such as reduced role of government, low taxes, fiscal responsibility and importance on classical liberal ideals(expression, free speech) then the democrats would lose half their supporters. I also think many outsiders shy away from republicans because honestly the party is full of elitists.

Kinda sad that the US doesn't really have a true conservative party. I'm a libertarian myself, so most of my stances are conservatives, except for maybe legalization of drugs. 

[24KT]

True conservatives for the most part are honest folks. I lean pretty conservative on certain issues, but liberal on others. Sometimes when I display conservative stances irl people are shocked and usually give me heat for it, as though because of my skin color I'm supposed to be a appologist pussy.

If republicans weren't worried about jebus and abortions and actually stuck to REAL conservatives issues that people actually care about, such as reduced role of government, low taxes, fiscal responsibility and importance on classical liberal ideals(expression, free speech) then the democrats would lose half their supporters. I also think many outsiders shy away from republicans because honestly the party is full of elitists.

Kinda sad that the US doesn't really have a true conservative party. I'm a libertarian myself, so most of my stances are conservatives, except for maybe legalization of drugs. 

Sadly, it appears that at some part, each party has kind of co-opted the others' platform.

btw CJ, did you enjoy 4-20? There was a huge 4 20 rally here in T.O. 

[Camel Jockey]

Sadly, it appears that at some part, each party has kind of co-opted the others' platform.

btw CJ, did you enjoy 4-20? There was a huge 4 20 rally here in T.O. 

Not really.. I just smoked a little. I also stopped drinking.. today was my 6 th straight night without a drink..

In the time was drinking like crazy I kinda lost my taste for cannabis, so I don't smoke much anymore.

[OneBigMan]

Of course there are, and Jesse Lee Peterson ain't one of them. He is just a black person hates other black people. Most Black people are conservative. Jesse and Al only speak the loudest. They still think it is 1968. They are to the Jurassic Period, as  the new breed will be to the Cretaceous Period...Just watch, wait and see..

Peterson should be straightforward and say that he dislikes real black people's ultra urban culture just like the rest of us have for the past number of years since the early 90's AFTER the LA Riots. He doesn't have to disagree with their politics so publicly because including that in the uncomfortable issues about the crime culture of ultra urban americans is intentional and harmful to the identity of african-americans.