riddle me this?

[wes mantooth]

got a buddy (no...its not me...its an actual friend) who is about to go on HRT (gel). he will be tested every 3 months by his doc, yet still wants to cycle while trying to be as safe and inconspicuous as possible. heres the deal:

should he run a prop/dbol cycle for 6 weeks?...or something like that (suggestions)

should he skip pct and jump right back to his HRT gel after a cycle?

should he use the gel while on the cycle?


personally, i think he should run dbol at about 20mgs ED/prop 75 EOD for 6 weeks....use the gel while on and skip pct and continue the gel...and have almost 2 months before he sees the doc again.....

 
discuss

[Arnold jr]

First off, as you most likely know, gel is pretty crappy.

Also, how old is this guy?

[wes mantooth]

First off, as you most likely know, gel is pretty crappy.

Also, how old is this guy?

yeah...gels lame...but i guess its better than nothing. i told him to "suggest" a long acting test ester and see what his doc said....but i think hes a little timid.

hes 39.....test levels are near ZERO!!!!!

[Arnold jr]

yeah...gels lame...but i guess its better than nothing. i told him to "suggest" a long acting test ester and see what his doc said....but i think hes a little timid.

hes 39.....test levels are near ZERO!!!!!

When he goes in for his checkups every so often and if he decides to use some of hi own stuff in conjuncture with the perscibed HRT, I would imagine this would show up in the test. Is this going to effect him in being able to keep his perscription?

[wes mantooth]

When he goes in for his checkups every so often and if he decides to use some of hi own stuff in conjuncture with the perscibed HRT, I would imagine this would show up in the test. Is this going to effect him in being able to keep his perscription?

thats why i was thinking something on the lines of a prop/ dbol cycle for no more than 6 weeks. a little extra boost, then having a 6 week period of just the HRT until the next doctor visit. hes already shut down, the gel will boost him a tad, the cycle will be clear from his system....and his levels should be back to the equivelent of the gel usage by the time he has to go to the doc..

week 1-4 dbol 20mgs
week 1-6 prop 75mgs EOD
week 7-12 gel
then back to the doc to check levels

what do you think?

[Arnold jr]

On paper it looks good and I don't know why it wouldn't work. However, I'm no expert when it comes to how things go down when you go to the doc in regards to HRT. I would think this should be fine by the way you laid it out, but I'd do some more digging just to make sure...maybe our own doc will shed some light on this.

[freakfestMD]

week 1-4 dbol 20mgs
week 1-6 prop 75mgs EOD
week 7-12 gel
then back to the doc to check levels

what do you think?

I think this would work in terms of being OK for his next test level if the doc was interested in rechecking that.

Personally, I would be very upfront about it all.  Tell the doc you occasionally run cycles.  Ask for his advice in helping you to do this as safely as possible.  Most docs just want honesty from you.  Your friend might even score big and have the doc offer to write scripts for him, and to safely monitor his lab values. That way, he could run longer, better cycles.  I mean--6 weeks??--what's the point?

[gtbro1]

  I would hord the gel and not use any...or at least not very much. If the doc tests him and does not see any noticeable improvement MAYBE he will write him a script for some injectable Test...just a thought.

[wes mantooth]

I think this would work in terms of being OK for his next test level if the doc was interested in rechecking that.

Personally, I would be very upfront about it all.  Tell the doc you occasionally run cycles.  Ask for his advice in helping you to do this as safely as possible.  Most docs just want honesty from you.  Your friend might even score big and have the doc offer to write scripts for him, and to safely monitor his lab values. That way, he could run longer, better cycles.  I mean--6 weeks??--what's the point?

i told him that honesty really is the best policy in that regard. hell, i think he is more afraid of his wife finding out than the doc! LOL i also told him to try a more liberal/ informed doc.....maybe after i show him these posts he will see the light.

as far as the 6 week thing goes....its better than nothing right freak?

ill keep this updated....i will see him later today at the gym.

[trab]

If he's running extra, why even bother w/ the crappy gell HRT 
Way overpriced also.  They have made it much more troublesome for the HRT shops now.

They are requiring bloodwork and checkups on regular basis.
Also only shipping a vial or 2 @ time now. That cranks up the shipping and  'script price about $70 for each order! They'd ship like 10 vials at a time before, so now that's about $700 down the pipe right there.
They were very liberal in past. This appears to be done from what I've found.
It will spur much greater demand in the UG & under the table import market.

These laws all cause more problem than before.

It sounds to me like the Signature Pharmacy owners have a very good shot at acquittal and possibly even civil court counter suit. Read the story in this months (June 07) Muscular Development  by Romano on pg300.

I hope this NY D.A. -  P. David Soares  looses his Law licence and a huge civil court judgment for giving out private personal medical records. Get the damn Govt out of medicine.