let me try to clear this up,,
igf should be used for bf% reduction,,that is it when it comes to short term goals,,it should be injected berfore going to sleep while eating half a banana about an hour before going to bed,,ya ya i know you want it post training but im giving you the way to actually decrease your bodyfat% with out holding water weight,,
now as the father said test should be there in anycase,,test should always be there,,its natural to thebody ,,men are more muscular than women because they have more testosterone in them,,
now,,
6-7 mcg of igf = 1 unit of growth,,
now ,,
you are not me nor you are ron colman,,you do not need 120mcg you dont look to be 300lb with huge pot prego belly which is a result of excess growth and insulin combined with food,, we do it because this is our job and this is what grows us to be freaky,,everything gets freaky,,that includes the bello and midsection,,this is how pros look now days and that is what you gotta do inorder to get to 260lb of lean muscle mass,,
what you as an amatuer bodybuilder need to do to begin with,,,is to take lower doses,,,to take them every other day or every third day,,doses like 30mcg 40mcg 50mcg,,depending on lean muscle mass,,
30 mcg = almost 6 units of growth,,it is plenty you dont need more and you need to take it EVERY OTHER DAY,,shock your body dont over saturate it,,
the above especially if injected before bed time will do 2 things to you:
1. will lean you out and reduce your bodyfat even farther
2. will bring out your veins and help you get the road map look as in paper thin skin
those are the main pusposes of growth and igf ,,,igf will bring is faster because it is the milk that comes out of the cow,,,only that you dont need to have a cow now when you already have what you needed which was the milk,,
inother words igf has a place in bodybuilding for the massess but you need to know how to use it and growth is not its main purposes,,,it is composition change,,,it is getting bodyfat down while holding to lean muscle mass,, this is part of the tools needed inorder to get the 3 dimention look of quality muscle so talked about,,
it can be donewith out igf and was done this way for years,,,but igf can make it a little easier and faster,,as long as its not being abused,,as in 200lb bodybuilder injecting 120mcg every day,,this! will cause you waterbloat,,,this will cause you side effects,,
you gotta be smart about the way you go with gh and igf,,dont try to put in you 150mcg a day when your body only needs 30mcg,,