New SERM's (Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulators)?

[DIVISION]

Fareston (Toremifene Citrate)
Evista (Raloxifene Hydrochloride)

Anyone tried these yet?

How do they compare with Nolvadex and Clomid?

Are they as strong as aromatase inhibitors like Aromasin, Femara, Arimidex?




DIV

[Rimbaud]

Does this mean the DIVISION is back?

On a serious note I've seen those & I've been a little curious about them myself. Haven't tried them though.

[DIVISION]

Does this mean the DIVISION is back?

On a serious note I've seen those & I've been a little curious about them myself. Haven't tried them though.

Ag-Guys has them advertised and I'm going to try them but wondered if anyone has had feedback, positive or negative.

Sir, EVISTSA was not good @ all
I developed monster gyno from SNRI drugs..

So tried EVISTA because ANABOLICS wrote this drug better than Nolvadex about gyno.
But result is NUKED. Maybe I need $2000 liposux or $5000 gyno-surgey 

my country cosme-surgey is ripped off 

If you are gyno-prone, you probably should have used one of the aromatase inhibitors first.

You can try and see if they'll limit your existing gyno, but no promises.



DIV

[udeluz]

Does this mean the DIVISION is back?

On a serious note I've seen those & I've been a little curious about them myself. Haven't tried them though.

div is kinda like that laser hair removal commercial

"Hair (Here) today gone tomorrow"

UDE

[SWOLETRAIN]

i was under the impression that tor was the next big thing. Saying its the ultimate pct. Has anybody on here used it? I was considering it

[Rimbaud]

Ag-Guys has them advertised and I'm going to try them but wondered if anyone has had feedback, positive or negative.

I didn't see them there I saw them on another site.

[DIVISION]

i was under the impression that tor was the next big thing. Saying its the ultimate pct. Has anybody on here used it? I was considering it

Ultimate PCT?

From the chemical structure, it looks very similiar to Nolvadex.

By its classification alone, I wouldn't say it's better than any of the AI's.



DIV

[Luv2Hurt]

Fareston (Toremifene Citrate)
Evista (Raloxifene Hydrochloride)

Anyone tried these yet?

How do they compare with Nolvadex and Clomid?

Are they as strong as aromatase inhibitors like Aromasin, Femara, Arimidex?




DIV

Well if they are SERMS then they work different than AI's  But are they stronger or do they target more receptors than Nolvadex that I would like to know.  Time for me to do some research on them.

The stuff looks interesting.  Wonder if there is any personal experience stories out there yet?

[hooker]

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/evista.htm
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/fareston.htm

[Luv2Hurt]

Thanks for the links Hook.  Fareston sounds like it may be a good one.

[hooker]

Thanks for the links Hook.  Fareston sounds like it may be a good one.

I wrote 'em...you may as well read 'em!

[Alex23]

Well if they are SERMS then they work different than AI's  But are they stronger or do they target more receptors than Nolvadex that I would like to know.  Time for me to do some research on them.

The stuff looks interesting.  Wonder if there is any personal experience stories out there yet?

How about vision problems? I've heard many bad storied of people getting permanent phosphenes and other visions disturbances from tamoxifen.

Same sides reported with SERMs?

[Luv2Hurt]

How about vision problems? I've heard many bad storied of people getting permanent phosphenes and other visions disturbances from tamoxifen.

Same sides reported with SERMs?

Well Tamoxifen is also a SERM.  Clomid has the worst rep in the vision problems area.  I would guess these newer SERMS since they seem very similar to tamoxifen could have the same problems.  A look at the package inserts could tell us more, well what the heck here they are.

http://pi.lilly.com/us/evista-pi.pdf
http://www.fareston.com/pdfs/Prescribing_Info.pdf

[DIVISION]

Well Tamoxifen is also a SERM.  Clomid has the worst rep in the vision problems area.  I would guess these newer SERMS since they seem very similar to tamoxifen could have the same problems.  A look at the package inserts could tell us more, well what the heck here they are.

http://pi.lilly.com/us/evista-pi.pdf
http://www.fareston.com/pdfs/Prescribing_Info.pdf

Clomid was absolutely useless for me and has some very annoying sides.

How each individual drug interacts in the body really depends on that person's genetic structure more than anything.

Will be trying Fareston and Evista shortly...


DIV

[trab]

It's strange how different ppl react. Ive heard lots of complaints about Clomid. It works great for me, w/ no sides other than a zit or 2 in odd places. I only go about 2wks on it.

[Arnold jr]

It's strange how different ppl react. Ive heard lots of complaints about Clomid. It works great for me, w/ no sides other than a zit or 2 in odd places. I only go about 2wks on it.

Yeah, clomid works well for me too. But it is the only thing I've used so far that gives me any kind of acne...bacne to be specific.

[trab]

I get zits on my ForeArms from that stuff. Not many, but NOTHING else does it.

[Luolamies]

I have never heard people having vision issues with NOLVA but i have heard some having them with CLOMID. Both worked good for me...
No sides either...