Why don't Pro bodybuilders exploit their knowledge (Huh Flex Wheeler)

[Ari_gold]

How in the world could a guy like Flex Wheeler train Hollywood stars??? In his own head, he believes he is some kind of star...He wouldn't last 5 minutes in a weight room with someone who walks around with 5 body guards ect...These types of people are delousional

not to mention he looks like shit today

[SteelePegasus]

I believe I said something to the tune of "When you find a white bodybuilder that has won EIGHT Olympias...." . Last time I checked, seven isn't equal to eight.

you are asking a lot of squadfather to know the difference between 7 and 8

[Devon97]

I was thinking how, Charles Glass trained Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier, but also trains stars and a starlets and others with money. So does Lee Haney, Now Chris Cormier is training Britney Spears. Why don't others like Flex, instead of maybe doing a comeback, use his competitive bodybuilding resume and train Hollywood stars, or work for a Pro football athletic program or a high profile college athletic program. Hell, he knows more than most trainers, plus he can back up his talk.

Think about it,  a 4x Arnold Classic winner, a top 10 Olympia finisher, and multiple contest winner, sounds better on one's resume, than some dude who, yes has their degree, but barely has ever had 16 inch arms, let alone ever looked like Flex did.
 Flex could move the Las Vegas, Atlanta, or Miami, set up shop if he wanted to and possibly make a killing.

The same could go true for Shawn Ray, I remember reading that he would get invited to the watch the Green Bay practices, I think he could step it up further and be a trainer.

Why don't dudes like this use, their knowledge to further their lives after they have retired (Especially Flex) instead, of thinking about killing themselves.

Parker,

Im not sure how you came to the conclusion that some drug abusing  bber with no education is privy to some esoteric strength training info! 

Hope this helps!

[Parker]

Parker,

Im not sure how you came to the conclusion that some drug abusing  bber with no education is privy to some esoteric strength training info! 

Hope this helps!

Would that also go for Shawn Ray as well.

It has been noted that Flex is well read, despite not having a college degree. But I beleive he has some figment of doing things right.  A la, his use of escilene in a T formation on his delts, or using synothol in a manner in which he did not over do it. This shows some sort of knowledge doing things right. I give a person some credit, because few have accomplished what he has, but more have taken more drugs than he has, without the same results.

I was just giving a thought to Flex or others who try and do a comeback to the stage, a safer route to exploit what they have learned thru trial and error

[Devon97]

Would that also go for Shawn Ray as well.

It has been noted that Flex is well read, despite not having a college degree. But I beleive he has some figment of doing things right.  A la, his use of escilene in a T formation on his delts, or using synothol in a manner in which he did not over do it. This shows some sort of knowledge doing things right. I give a person some credit, because few have accomplished what he has, but more have taken more drugs than he has, without the same results.

I was just giving a thought to Flex or others who try and do a comeback to the stage, a safer route to exploit what they have learned thru trial and error

Yes this goes for any bber who takes illegal drugs, or better yet any bber for that matter.
How would shooting synthol or getting a "T" formation on his delts would some how make someone capable of being a strength/speed coach for an athlete?

[Parker]

Yes this goes for any bber who takes illegal drugs, or better yet any bber for that matter.
How would shooting synthol or getting a "T" formation on his delts would some how make someone capable of being a strength/speed coach for an athlete?

I was responding to your post saying that " .. bber with no education is privy..." post.  We all are privy to some sort of knowledge, and being in the fattest country in the world, a lot of people could benefit (although, it is more of a lack of discipline than lack of knowledge). Those who choose to keep what ever grains of info they have learn within the iron game are truly the selfish, but those who choose to share that info, are at least giving back to the community.

[Devon97]

I was thinking how, Charles Glass trained Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier, but also trains stars and a starlets and others with money. So does Lee Haney, Now Chris Cormier is training Britney Spears. Why don't others like Flex, instead of maybe doing a comeback, use his competitive bodybuilding resume and train Hollywood stars, or work for a Pro football athletic program or a high profile college athletic program. Hell, he knows more than most trainers, plus he can back up his talk.[/glow]Think about it,  a 4x Arnold Classic winner, a top 10 Olympia finisher, and multiple contest winner, sounds better on one's resume, than some dude who, yes has their degree, but barely has ever had 16 inch arms, let alone ever looked like Flex did.
 Flex could move the Las Vegas, Atlanta, or Miami, set up shop if he wanted to and possibly make a killing.

The same could go true for Shawn Ray, I remember reading that he would get invited to the watch the Green Bay practices, I think he could step it up further and be a trainer.[/glow]Why don't dudes like this use, their knowledge to further their lives after they have retired (Especially Flex) instead, of thinking about killing themselves.

OK Once again please tell me how being a bber could possibly have anything to do with being a strength/speed coach for a pro or high profile college team?
Exactly what knowledge would they offer???

[dearth]

Ah.............Growing up to be a Personal Trainer was never on my "Wish List" as a 40 year old retired competitor.
I competed because I was a Bodybuilder and made a living doing it.
I'm doing just fine, thank you very much.

S. Ray

 depending on your wife as the bread winner for the family is considered "just fine"?

[what:]

Training an athlete to perform on the field of play is much different than training for a bodybuilding contest.  A bodybuiler only needs to train for maximum hypertrophy.  An athlete needs to concern his/herself with raising their strength, speed, endurance, etc.  Former bodybuilders simply are not experienced enough to design a training program that would improve all the skills that are required to exceed in most sports.

[Devon97]

Training an athlete to perform on the field of play is much different than training for a bodybuilding contest.  A bodybuiler only needs to train for maximum hypertrophy.  An athlete needs to concern his/herself with raising their strength, speed, endurance, etc.  Former bodybuilders simply are not experienced enough to design a training program that would improve all the skills that are required to exceed in most sports.

EXACTLY!.... Im still very curious as to why Parker would suggest being a 4 x Arnold/Olympia blah blah winner would have anything to do with improving the Athletes of a Pro Football team or "High profile college athletic program" .

Parker, Why did you suggest such an insane idea? It makes no sense! Please SPEAK ON THIS!

[Wombat]

I was responding to your post saying that " .. bber with no education is privy..." post.  We all are privy to some sort of knowledge, and being in the fattest country in the world, a lot of people could benefit (although, it is more of a lack of discipline than lack of knowledge). Those who choose to keep what ever grains of info they have learn within the iron game are truly the selfish, but those who choose to share that info, are at least giving back to the community.

Rumors were that Jay Cutler was notorious for given bad info to some of his "friends" back when he lived in Mass...

Also i heard that Flex after his career was over would sleep 15 hours a day. Probably not the most motivated person in the world

[MCWAY]

 depending on your wife as the bread winner for the family is considered "just fine"?

I don't recall Shawn Ray being on welfare, when he was single. If I'm not mistaken, on Battle for the Olympia: 2000, Ray has a rather good-sized house. And, wasn't that a red Ferarri (Diablo VT) he drove from his garage to the gym?

[Wombat]

I don't recall Shawn Ray being on welfare, when he was single. If I'm not mistaken, on Battle for the Olympia: 2000, Ray has a rather good-sized house. And, wasn't that a red Ferarri (Diablo VT) he drove from his garage to the gym?

Wasn't it said the Shawn "borrowed" the Diablo ect...