I think we may actually be seeing some success. Its absolutley true that we only maxed out forces within the last 45 days. Its taken almost 6 months for elements in place to begin and complete shaping operations that allowed us to launch the recent operations. They have resulted in killing alot of terrorists. I think we are fighting two wars. Its becoming increasingly clear by the stuff I hear and read..much of which u guys just don't have access to. That the local populace is sick of the foreign terrorist and are actively helping us. However they are also content to continue to butcher each other in this civil war. Based on that, I would pull troops to certain defended locations which allow us conduct missions like we are. The problem being is that once we pull out..there are no Iraqi backfills to continue to keep the peace. Within the last month, some have stepped up. If places like Anbar can hold...the locals will and are joining up to maintain the peace. Battles and wars can tunr on pivitol events. LT Gen. Petreus reports in Sept. The dems need to shut the hell up until then. Pelosis and her bunch of idiots need to give it time...two months. Every time she opens her month she undermines US operations. If the report says we're failing they we draw down.