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Sheffield the idiot...
« on: July 14, 2007, 10:44:59 AM »
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2935737

Gary Sheffield has strong words about New York Yankees manager Joe Torre, former Yankees teammate Derek Jeter, San Francisco slugger Barry Bonds and steroids in an interview with HBO's "Real Sports" that will air Tuesday.

Sheffield says Torre treats black players differently from white players and says Jeter, who is from a mixed-race marriage, "ain't all the way black," during the interview with Andrea Kremer, as reported by Newsday.

As for Bonds, Sheffield says "if I took what Barry Bonds took, why don't I look like him?" He also says that he never took steroids because "the bottom line is steroids is something you stick in your butt -- period."

He added that he would be willing to talk to baseball's steroids investigator, former Senator George Mitchell. "I don't feel like it's all that much of a threat to me," he said.

A copy of the interview was made available to Newsday, the newspaper reported.

Sheffield, who was traded to the Detroit Tigers during the offseason, claimed that black and white players in the Yankees clubhouse were treated differently, specifically how players Tony Womack and Kenny Lofton were handled by Torre. In the interview with HBO, Sheffield says the black players on the Yankees' roster would be "called out" in the clubhouse by Torre, while the white players would be called into Torre's office to discuss matters.

"They weren't treated like everybody else. I got called out in a couple of meetings that I thought were unfair," Sheffield told Kremer.

Sheffield later added: "He had a message to get across to the whole team, so he used me to get the message across." Sheffield said Torre didn't use the same method with white players.

"No ... I'd see a lot of white players get called in the office and treated like a man. That's the difference."

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He had a message to get across to the whole team, so he used me to get the message across.

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Sheffield said he doesn't consider Torre a racist. "No. I think it's the way they do things around there," he said. "Since I was there I just saw that they run their ship different."

At that point, Kremer says to Sheffield that the Yankees most high-profile player is black. "Who?" Sheffield says.

Told Jeter, Sheffield says: "Derek Jeter is black and white."

Later, he said there was no real significance to Jeter's bi-racial heritage, but added: "Derek Jeter used to come to me and try to tell you what Joe Torre is all about, he's a good man, he's this, he's that, but like I tell Derek Jeter, that's you. It's one thing that they treat you a certain way; you don't feel what other people feel."

Torre, asked about Sheffield's comments prior to Friday night's game in Tampa Bay, said: "I don't even want to answer those kinds of questions. I'm more comfortable not answering."

In the visiting clubhouse at Safeco Field on Friday, Sheffield stood behind what he said -- that Torre is not a racist -- but also tried to clarify some statements. In the piece, when it was mentioned that the Yankees' most prominent player -- Derek Jeter -- is black, Sheffield quickly clarified that Jeter is "black and white."

When asked the significance of that, Sheffield said, "It's really no significance. It's just you ain't all the way black."

On Friday, Sheffield said he and the Yankees shortstop were best friends on the team, and that Sheffield's son is also of mixed race.

"They're trying to make it a problem with him, when my son is the same. I'd say the same thing about my son," Sheffield said. "No one knows he's black until they look at the back of his jersey and see 'Sheffield.' "

Jeter declined comment.

As for Bonds, a former workout partner and friend of Sheffield's, the Tigers' outfielder says Bonds scoffed at him when he was using vitamins. Sheffield says he then got substances from BALCO, claiming not to know they were steroids.

Sheffield allegedly told a grand jury that he used steroid cream on his legs and "clear" under his tongue, but didn't know they were steroids.

He said his relationship with Bonds deteriorated because of a lack of trust.

"I trusted this man, he allowed me to stay in his house," Sheffield says. "I started seeing the control factor. I started seeing, wait a minute, you aren't going to tell me what to do."

On Friday, Sheffield said he doesn't speak with Bonds.

"We don't have no communication," Sheffield said. "I love and respect Barry to this day. I had a problem with him at that time, but I moved on and forgave."

Sheffield reportedly began the interview by saying: "I tell myself every offseason I'm not going to say anything crazy. I'm just going to have a peaceful season ... Can't do it. I'm cut from a different cloth."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

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This guy is a moron.  He juiced and knows it.  Just because he didn't use a needle doesn't prove anything.  Secondly, he is the biggest fucking racist crybaby in sports.  No wonder teams are happy to get rid of him.  He has a serious problem with authority and instruction, especially if he couldn't handle Bonds telling him to do things to make him better.  What a douche.  Then to attack Jeter based on the fact that he is biracial...what a crock.  He isn't even a Yankee anymore so why does he care?  Shit, if Torre was so bad why did Bernie Williams stay all those years?
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2007, 04:13:27 PM »
I read this today as well. The man is an absolute idiot. Isn't he a cousin of Bonds? If so asshole must run in the family.

Sheffield and racism = Mr. Hate and Liberals

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2007, 06:45:37 PM »
I read this today as well. The man is an absolute idiot. Isn't he a cousin of Bonds? If so asshole must run in the family.

Sheffield and racism = Mr. Hate and Liberals
doc gooden is his uncle,i have to admit i miss those numbers he puts up compared to abreu,but he is always a 2 yr rent a playa because of his mouth  :-\

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2007, 06:49:24 PM »
doc gooden is his uncle,i have to admit i miss those numbers he puts up compared to abreu,but he is always a 2 yr rent a playa because of his mouth  :-\
I made that point in another thread.  I think he was great with all the teams he has played with but he is a terrible teammate.  Could you imagine the Dodgers right now with his bat?
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2007, 06:55:43 PM »
Even more amazing that his ant like brain is the fact that at his age he still hits the ball harder than anyone in the game. He fukking CRUSHES the ball when he makes solid contact.

He hit a line drive off the wall to left the other night against the Sox that took about 1/8th of a second to hit the fence. It was ridiculous.

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2007, 07:05:49 PM »
Even more amazing that his ant like brain is the fact that at his age he still hits the ball harder than anyone in the game. He fukking CRUSHES the ball when he makes solid contact.

He hit a line drive off the wall to left the other night against the Sox that took about 1/8th of a second to hit the fence. It was ridiculous.
Imagine if he would have done  more work with Bonds??  He has a similar swing but has been more consistent in recent years.  His power is great...his mouth is greater.
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2007, 02:29:22 PM »
Guy makes over 14 million a year swinging a piece of wood for a living. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy your life.

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2007, 02:58:21 PM »
Guy makes over 14 million a year swinging a piece of wood for a living. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy your life.

Tell me about it. 

I heard Stephen A. Smith wrote an article that said if you're going to make accusations like this you better come up with specific instances. 

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 02:21:32 PM »
Million dollar body, ten cent brain. What can you expect from a guy who admitted to making errors on purpose to be traded when he was a Brewer.
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2007, 07:51:27 AM »
I saw the piece on Real Sports..he said crap about Torre but never really gave and instances. The reporter gavcew one after the fact but nothing that pointed to racism or being treated differently. Further he said that he didn't think Torre was racist, so whats his problem? He's an idiot.
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2007, 04:36:07 AM »
Guy makes over 14 million a year swinging a piece of wood for a living. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy your life.

Sheffielld is the type of guy who has to blame others for all his ills. He can't deal with the Yankees not wanting him. As for Lofton Bernie Williams just flat out outplayed him. Lofton- 12 teams in 16 years. Whats that tell you?
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2007, 05:48:41 AM »
Sheffielld is the type of guy who has to blame others for all his ills. He can't deal with the Yankees not wanting him. As for Lofton Bernie Williams just flat out outplayed him. Lofton- 12 teams in 16 years. Whats that tell you?

Before New York shipped Gary to the Tigers, Gary was saying he wanted to play in Boston. I was not sure how I felt about it. Ob the Yankees nixed that from materializing , but hindsight being 20 / 20 I would have rather had him then Drew (shorter deal). The weird thing is most people who meet Gary love him. No idea why he goes on these tirades.

Calling Torre a racist is pathetic.

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2007, 05:57:27 AM »
Ask Darryl Strawberry or Doc Gooden about Torre.you won't hear them say a bad word.
nothing but praise for Torre.

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2007, 06:17:03 AM »
Sheff is just one of those angry cats. A simple "you need to get your arse in gear" from a coach or manager to him will more than likely make him feel like he's being isolated and will set him off.

I've played sports with guys like him (mentality) dozens of times.

This guys doesn't like anybody. He's in his own little bitter world. I just hope he doesn't spread his bitter perception/outlook to his kids.

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2007, 07:54:49 AM »
I bet he sees the white hand of apartheid opression in his morning cereal.

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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2007, 08:19:03 AM »
I'm glad he got fined for his umpire comments too.  The guy needs to realize that he is a high priced player and that should be enough for him.  Bringing up race every two seconds will not make life easier for anyone.  When he commented on black versus latino players in the league, I was appalled.  For him to say that there are so many other black players out there that are better than latinos or that latinos are easier to control was dumb.  Could it also be that many black athletes gravitate to football and basketball more than football?  This  guy has the process of "insert foot in mouth before speaking" down pat.
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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2007, 08:50:17 AM »
I'm glad he got fined for his umpire comments too.  The guy needs to realize that he is a high priced player and that should be enough for him.  Bringing up race every two seconds will not make life easier for anyone.  When he commented on black versus latino players in the league, I was appalled.  For him to say that there are so many other black players out there that are better than latinos or that latinos are easier to control was dumb.  Could it also be that many black athletes gravitate to football and basketball more than football?  This  guy has the process of "insert foot in mouth before speaking" down pat.

I would be pretty pissed if I were a latino player..

Where did he even come to that conclusion? I mean reduced black players in baseball = product of black culture and nothing more.


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Re: Sheffield the idiot...
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2007, 04:43:47 PM »
I would be pretty pissed if I were a latino player..

Where did he even come to that conclusion? I mean reduced black players in baseball = product of black culture and nothing more.


exactly, their are more football fields and  basketball hoops in the hood and they can be self taught...baseball is different but he is no ambassador for the black culture, just a selfish douche.
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