the reason i put yates ahead of ronnie is bc yates is in better condition, his presentation and posing are better.
he also hids his flaws better than ronnie - that midsection throws off every pose and then the calves issue.
yates arms may look undersized in SOME shots, but ronnie's abs and calves look horrid in EVERY shot.
also, yates beat better guys in their prime than ronnie did.
I can agree with that to a point, but this will be a never ending subject thats why there is a multi-K thread comparing the two of them...The best way, that this could be delt with is to take videos of Ronnie at his best and Dorian at his best doing manditory poses from the Mr. Olympias and have two unbias judges sit and watch the videos and score them accordingly as if both of them were competing against eachother...