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Nicrah

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Next Cycle
« on: July 23, 2007, 03:13:26 PM »
I'm working out my cycle for this winter. I want to put on as much muscle as possible. I'm looking at a 12 week cycle. I have done 3 cycles so far and they are the following.
#1 - 500mg Test E per week - 50mg Dbol ED - 8 weeks -  results = a little stronger and kept about 5 lbs

#2 - 50mg Test Prop EOD - 75mg Tren EOD - 50mg Winny EOD - 8 weeks - reults = no strength gains, but got     pretty lean (dropped from 12% bf - 8%)

#3 - 750 mg Sustanon per week - 400 EQ EOD - 50mg Dbol ED - 8 weeks - results = good strength, put on 10lbs.

I'm 28, 6ft, 210lbs, 10% BF. This is the 12 week cycle i'm thinking of doing, give me your thoughts.

1,000mg Test E - EW

400mg Deca - EW

75mg Tren - EOD

Orals - thinking about either trying Halo or Anadrol.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2007, 03:26:33 PM »
Wow Halo and Drol, want a liver or kidneys left...me personally I would stay away from those. As far as your cycle good to see you didn't do overkill on the test. I would go with Sustanon and Deca seeing as it is your 4th cycle. Front load with DBols and finish off with Tren at the end. I would bump it to 15 or 18 weeks though.

You could also do the same as you did in you 3rd cycle as it seemed to have worked for you, just add in the Deca and up your doses a bit.
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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2007, 03:30:57 PM »
Actually i said Halo or Anadrol, not both....i like my liver. I liked Test E a bit better, i felt it more i guess. Sustanon was ok, but I didn't notice it as much.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2007, 03:35:28 PM »
No I read ya, either is just harsh that's all. The Drols killed my insides. And as far as the Test it was a suggestion that's all. Everyones body reacts differently, I know mine blows up on Sustanon and the test E would be a close second.

I got a lot of good advice from the vets on this board and through alot of research on the web....
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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2007, 04:11:31 PM »
Yeah same here, thats why i posted it up on here to see what everyone thought.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2007, 05:35:26 PM »
I like Drol. It dont kill my guts, raised sogt to high range normal If I recall.
I take 1 tab  2x ed for 1st 10-14 days. Killer pumps! ;)

Your taking a lot more Test here Than ever before. That 750 sus is no compare to 1000TE. Not even in teh same leauge. SUS release over 3 weeks, not 1 week.

Dont use Oxy if you cant deal w/ being smooth. Use it to swell, increase leverage and therefore strength, and get a load of Red cells on early in the game. Just Force the food down and remember where you park your car... ;D

Id personaly front load 1000 sus then move into TE at 600 or so, you'll be carying the sus for 21 days after switch over.

Learn to check your own BP. Thats the limit on bloat if its your plan.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2007, 05:40:06 PM »
Some of the best past cycles I've had were simple test/deca combos. If you go this route, you might consider running the cycle 2-4wks longer, stopping the deca at wk 12...you're call, but just keep in mind that it takes a bit longer for the deca to clear out well, and cycles ending with deca are not the best IMO.

On the halo and anadrol, anadrol at the front end would be fine, but I'd hold off on the halo unless you were getting ready for some sort of comp. The stuff is expensive, it's not going to do much for you size wise and is best for the end of a comp cycle to help you push through the end, push heavier weight if it's a PL comp or harden up if it's a BB comp.

Last off, I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but whatever your goals are, they are going to be met or not depending on how sound your diet is. You want to get bigger and stronger, then find the right combo of foods to go with your cycle and it will happen. Want to get leaner and harder, same thing...just don't get caught up with trying to do both at the same time. In the end, if your diet is right, whatever the goal, any well thought out cycle will help you get there.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2007, 06:26:13 PM »
#1 - 500mg Test E per week - 50mg Dbol ED - 8 weeks -  results = a little stronger and kept about 5 lbs


How did you only keep 5lbs from that.......

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 06:38:22 PM »
Didn't keep much from it because I didn't even feel the Test E until I upped it at the end. The Dbol was fine and all, just didn't keep much of it. Guess I have bad test receptors or something.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 07:53:51 PM »
Didn't keep much from it because I didn't even feel the Test E until I upped it at the end. The Dbol was fine and all, just didn't keep much of it. Guess I have bad test receptors or something.
Nah, if it didn't go well, it's because something else was missing IMO...diet and/or PCT wasn't right.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2007, 08:11:47 PM »
I'll make sure to keep a log of things this time around then to make sure.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2007, 01:22:40 PM »
Didn't keep much from it because I didn't even feel the Test E until I upped it at the end. The Dbol was fine and all, just didn't keep much of it. Guess I have bad test receptors or something.


Forget about Receptors and all that Mumbo-Jumbo snake oil salesmen use to sell shit.
Like Borrenson said, God didnt give us Primobolan receptors, he Gave us Test receptors...

You need to run longer if you want to see good results, thats all.
Measure cycles in MONTHs not WEEKs ;)!
You gona get shut down anyway!! There is not free ride in life. If you want 20 or 40 or 100 more lbs of beef on yur
frame, there's a certian amt of sacrifice to be made. The more extreme the goal, the greater the sacrifice.
But  20-30 lbs of nice lookin solid bodyweigh is NOTHIN' to achieve IME, even for a bonyass guy (like Me ;))

For years only a certina few knew the "secrets" ::)  how to use this stuff. We were lied to and misled by the magazines and spun our wheels going nowhere. Those days are gone.

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Re: Next Cycle
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2007, 03:44:36 PM »

Forget about Receptors and all that Mumbo-Jumbo snake oil salesmen use to sell shit.
Like Borrenson said, God didnt give us Primobolan receptors, he Gave us Test receptors...

You need to run longer if you want to see good results, thats all.
Measure cycles in MONTHs not WEEKs ;)!
You gona get shut down anyway!! There is not free ride in life. If you want 20 or 40 or 100 more lbs of beef on yur
frame, there's a certian amt of sacrifice to be made. The more extreme the goal, the greater the sacrifice.
But  20-30 lbs of nice lookin solid bodyweigh is NOTHIN' to achieve IME, even for a bonyass guy (like Me ;))

For years only a certina few knew the "secrets" ::)  how to use this stuff. We were lied to and misled by the magazines and spun our wheels going nowhere. Those days are gone.

Well said, and nuff said!!!!!!!!
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