BBer using Insulin considered natural?

[Dballn247]

Yes without a doubt, people dabbled with it back in the late 80's and 90, But Milos seemed to have perfected    dosing it.  You can get big and lean at the same time.  Throw in some Igf1 and just 500 mgs a week of test, those gains will rival 1500mgs of test a week and 50mgs of Dbol a day.  Plus you'll keep more weight because you aren't gaining as much water weight.

Using insulin freaks me out though.....You have to be a dedicated person or it's lights out. Literally.

[kyomu]

milos, i hope you win a great big trophy........before your kidney and pancrease transplant.  

Hahahahahahahaha!But I dont think so. This carzy doctor know how to deal with roids and slin.

[bigmac77]

Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on August 22, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...


I put this in the 17 page thread, but no response. It may be more suitable here. So is it(slin) used prior to workout or just the standard protocol of immediately after workout? With all the carbs coming in before, during and after, it seems that you would use it before the workout, just a much smaller dose than normal, due to its heightened effects during a work out, humulog being the brand of choice. It would seem it would be able to perform its job even better in conjunction with the giant sets utilizing it for however the workout lasts, versus only administering after the workout. Comments Milos?

[sholtstraining]

whats the chances of a bodybuilder only using insulin??? and stricly insulin only anyway??..extrmely rare in my book..hard to do if your dont have a good team of docs ready to help out(that is to do it absoultley perfect anyway)....

[musclehedz]

Most "naturals" use it along with test. prop/suspension and other short esterfied drugs. Very effective and undetectable.

[musclehedz]

Yes without a doubt, people dabbled with it back in the late 80's and 90, But Milos seemed to have perfected    dosing it.  You can get big and lean at the same time.  Throw in some Igf1 and just 500 mgs a week of test, those gains will rival 1500mgs of test a week and 50mgs of Dbol a day.  Plus you'll keep more weight because you aren't gaining as much water weight.

Using insulin freaks me out though.....You have to be a dedicated person or it's lights out. Literally.

Just think twice before injecting it, and keep your fast carbs by your side. Millions of people do it everyday.

[Van_Bilderass]

Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on August 22, 2007, 04:55:55 AM
My drink(s) [3 drinks - before-during-after] - every time I train /except on the LEGS day - when I don't take during...for obvious reasons.../
Slin - almost every workout...WHEN I AM SERIOUS and train as I should...


I put this in the 17 page thread, but no response. It may be more suitable here. So is it(slin) used prior to workout or just the standard protocol of immediately after workout? With all the carbs coming in before, during and after, it seems that you would use it before the workout, just a much smaller dose than normal, due to its heightened effects during a work out, humulog being the brand of choice. It would seem it would be able to perform its job even better in conjunction with the giant sets utilizing it for however the workout lasts, versus only administering after the workout. Comments Milos?

I doubt Milos will answer this.

Insulin is a bit riskier pre-workout since very intense training can drop the blood glucose suddenly in conjunction with the insulin. Not to mention make you look like a fool if you collapse in the middle of the gym and they call the ambulance.

[sholtstraining]

?

[Livewire]

These are the standard steroid risks.  Enough to make you run.  Toss in the highly unpredictable nature of Insulin - you'd have to be crazy to run it.


1) Increased Liver Function.
2) Depression of Natural Testosterone Production.
3) Increase in Cholesterol Levels and Blood Pressure (Not conductive to good cardiovascular health).
4) Altered Thyroid Function.
5) Headeches.
6) Nose bleeds.
7) Cramps.
Development of breastlike tissue in men (Gynecomastia).
9) Insulin Insensitivity (Even though Deca Durabolin improves the insulin metabolism).
10) Androgenic Side effects such as thinning hair, enlarged prostate, oily skin, water retention, increased body hair, aggressiveness.
11) Stunted growth if you are a teenager.
12) Oral Steroid specific side effects: In addition to the above, the orals also tend to cause nausea, diarrhea, constipation, and vomiting.
13) May accelerate the growth of tumors.
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/myths-and-dangers-of-anabolic-steroid.html

[musclehedz]

These are the standard steroid risks.  Enough to make you run.  Toss in the highly unpredictable nature of Insulin - you'd have to be crazy to run it.


1) Increased Liver Function.
2) Depression of Natural Testosterone Production.
3) Increase in Cholesterol Levels and Blood Pressure (Not conductive to good cardiovascular health).
4) Altered Thyroid Function.
5) Headeches.
6) Nose bleeds.
7) Cramps.
Development of breastlike tissue in men (Gynecomastia).
9) Insulin Insensitivity (Even though Deca Durabolin improves the insulin metabolism).
10) Androgenic Side effects such as thinning hair, enlarged prostate, oily skin, water retention, increased body hair, aggressiveness.
11) Stunted growth if you are a teenager.
12) Oral Steroid specific side effects: In addition to the above, the orals also tend to cause nausea, diarrhea, constipation, and vomiting.
13) May accelerate the growth of tumors.
http://www.getanabolics.com/2007/08/myths-and-dangers-of-anabolic-steroid.html

Depends on your genetics, usage and dosages. None of it can be dangerous when using them right.

[sholtstraining]

aside from if its considered natural or not....whats everyones thoughts on the effects and usage on insulin??