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« on: September 08, 2007, 07:32:40 PM »
what the fuck is wrong with crocop? that guy absolutely sucks. maybe he was a big deal in some other org, but from what I've seen in UFC, he's gotten his ass handed to him twice. he looked horrible and non-aggressive in both fights.


crocop ::) whatever
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 09:21:00 PM »
maybe Pride fighters are overrated  ;D
Let's see how Fedor does in the cage
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 09:21:56 PM »
i can't agree. kongo was scared of him. cro cop got hit 4 times (count them between the rounds 2 and 3) between the legs. anyone would be alittle off after that. i am sure since cro cop  is off of all his supplements  that it would make a difference but give cro come credit he is still one of the best
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2007, 09:23:10 PM »
Quote from: Eric15210 on September 08, 2007, 09:21:00 PM
maybe Pride fighters are overrated  ;D
Let's see how Fedor does in the cage

yeah. lets see. i will bet on him with anyone the ufc puts against him..and i am a ufc fan
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 09:23:26 PM »
Quote from: chaos on September 08, 2007, 07:32:40 PM
what the fuck is wrong with crocop? that guy absolutely sucks. maybe he was a big deal in some other org, but from what I've seen in UFC, he's gotten his ass handed to him twice. he looked horrible and non-aggressive in both fights.


crocop ::) whatever

I was thinking the same thing.

Maybe it has just passed him by.

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Re: spoiler
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 09:36:15 PM »
Quote from: 20inch calves on September 08, 2007, 09:21:56 PM
i can't agree. kongo was scared of him. cro cop got hit 4 times (count them between the rounds 2 and 3) between the legs. anyone would be alittle off after that. i am sure since cro cop  is off of all his supplements  that it would make a difference but give cro come credit he is still one of the best
from the get go, Mirko didn't appear, to me, to have any "killer instinct" I'm very disappointed in his UFC showings, absolutely nothing spectacular from this guy.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt after the Gonzaga fight, anyone can get a lucky shot in, but this just seems to confirm that he isn't the bad ass everyone touted him as.
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2007, 09:52:15 PM »
Quote from: chaos on September 08, 2007, 09:36:15 PM
from the get go, Mirko didn't appear, to me, to have any "killer instinct" I'm very disappointed in his UFC showings, absolutely nothing spectacular from this guy.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt after the Gonzaga fight, anyone can get a lucky shot in, but this just seems to confirm that he isn't the bad ass everyone touted him as.


everyone just didn't tout him as being bad..he earned his rep in pride. he has fought some of the best and beat them. he about killed wandy silvea but nobody gives him creditr because if he wasn't in the ufc i guess it diddn't happin. i love the ufc but there is more to mma then the ufc
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2007, 10:15:23 PM »
Quote from: 20inch calves on September 08, 2007, 09:52:15 PM

everyone just didn't tout him as being bad..he earned his rep in pride. he has fought some of the best and beat them. he about killed wandy silvea but nobody gives him creditr because if he wasn't in the ufc i guess it diddn't happin. i love the ufc but there is more to mma then the ufc
my point is, and I said this before, who says the best compitition is outside the UFC? Some of the guys have come in and done good for themselves(Rampage) but Mirko hasn't proven himself in two fights now, looked completely unimpressive to me. I've seen his Pride fights but he just hasn't shown any type of aggresiveness, even before the nut shots.
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2007, 11:20:44 PM »
he has never been a real agressive fighter but he is still one of the best. what he has accomplished in the past can never be take away regardless of how he shows in the ufc. i don't believe that the best is pride however i believe fedor will dominate
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 08:26:39 AM »
Quote from: chaos on September 08, 2007, 10:15:23 PM
my point is, and I said this before, who says the best compitition is outside the UFC? Some of the guys have come in and done good for themselves(Rampage) but Mirko hasn't proven himself in two fights now, looked completely unimpressive to me. I've seen his Pride fights but he just hasn't shown any type of aggresiveness, even before the nut shots.

I have always noticed that people on here actually get upset if you say the UFC has better talent than Pride. I never understood that. Pride was a pretty good organization, but the fighters are not as good as the fighters in the UFC imo. Fedor would get destroyed in the UFC. Just like Crocop and Heath Herring. I wish Dana would just fire Crocop, I don't want to see that pos fight ever again.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 12:10:38 PM »
Quote from: danielson on September 09, 2007, 08:26:39 AM
I have always noticed that people on here actually get upset if you say the UFC has better talent than Pride. I never understood that. Pride was a pretty good organization, but the fighters are not as good as the fighters in the UFC imo. Fedor would get destroyed in the UFC. Just like Crocop and Heath Herring. I wish Dana would just fire Crocop, I don't want to see that pos fight ever again.

From top to bottom Pride was way better than UFC. Now it is moot since they are all together. Ask Chuck how good Pride is. I would say the top 3 Light-heavys are all from Pride.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 12:11:55 PM »
Quote from: danielson on September 09, 2007, 08:26:39 AM
I have always noticed that people on here actually get upset if you say the UFC has better talent than Pride. I never understood that. Pride was a pretty good organization, but the fighters are not as good as the fighters in the UFC imo. Fedor would get destroyed in the UFC. Just like Crocop and Heath Herring. I wish Dana would just fire Crocop, I don't want to see that pos fight ever again.

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2007, 12:29:41 PM »
The guy had a broken rip int he first round so that explains why he was so passive in the remaining two rounds. Also I don't think the multiple groin shots helped either.

CroCop is still a great fighter. I'm beginning to despise the UFC. Pride rules were better and I like the ring. It's gone nothing anyone can do about it.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2007, 12:39:18 PM »
personally i could care less which organization is better. fedor however is on a different planet then everyone else
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 12:45:14 PM »
Quote from: 20inch calves on September 09, 2007, 12:39:18 PM
personally i could care less which organization is better. fedor however is on a different planet then everyone else

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2007, 12:49:33 PM »
Quote from: CARTEL on September 09, 2007, 12:10:38 PM
From top to bottom Pride was way better than UFC. Now it is moot since they are all together. Ask Chuck how good Pride is. I would say the top 3 Light-heavys are all from Pride.

The UFC has always been better than Pride. Maybe not the LHW's, but all the other weight classes. Look at how good Crocop did in Pride and he is one of the biggest cans in the UFC.
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Re: spoiler
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2007, 10:11:32 PM »
Quote from: danielson on September 09, 2007, 12:49:33 PM
The UFC has always been better than Pride. Maybe not the LHW's, but all the other weight classes. Look at how good Crocop did in Pride and he is one of the biggest cans in the UFC.

CroCop got beat in Pride also so you can't pin his losses on all of Pride. I mean Anderson Silva is from Pride and he has his weight class on lockdown.

The main reason UFC sucked was because of the same crappy fighters fighting the same crappy fights. How does Tito fighting an old Shamrock 10 times bring out the best of anybody?
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