sumo vs conventional deadlifts?!

[thewickedtruth]

Would you have more power in a sumo stance vs a conventional stance? Kinda like you get more out of a wider stance on the squat that wiht your feet close together?   Not only that but it seems to bring the distance you have to move the weight down SIGNIFICANTLY! Am I wront on any of these observations? The reason I ask, I love pulling conventional but, I just watched a video of a highschool kid pick up 830lbs in the deadlift in a singlet during a highschool powerlifting meet on youtube.

It would be a nice change of pace to flip flop both styles and see hwo well they work.

[The Squadfather]

it's a different animal all together, sumos require practice and a lot of stretching, you have to be extremely flexible in your hips, adductors and hamstrings to pull sumos, a lot of guys think they will automatically pull a lot more sumo due to the ROM but they don't realize its a completely different movement with different muscles being stressed.

[WOOO]

it's a different animal all together, sumos require practice and a lot of stretching, you have to be extremely flexible in your hips, adductors and hamstrings to pull sumos, a lot of guys think they will automatically pull a lot more sumo due to the ROM but they don't realize its a completely different movement with different muscles being stressed.

100% right... i can't sumo fuck all... plus i think they look totally stupid 

[triple_pickle]

i used to lift sumo, when switched to conventional i did not notice any difference in poundages

[The Squadfather]

sumos are fairly worthless for bodybuilding as there is only half the ROM as regular deads honestly.

[Geo]

sumos are fairly worthless for bodybuilding

considering the source, that's pretty much the funniest thing I've read here in a while.


 

[Overload]

Sumo is great for short guys who have strong legs. i always pulled my groin on max pulls when i did them sumo, so i've stuck with conventional DL's for the last 5 years.

Conventional can be great if you sit back and drive with your heals. too many guys turn it into a stiff leg deadlift, but many big lifters pull this way. if you can get your hips low you will pull big numbers in the regular DL.

[John O]

I have always competed sumo style.   5'6" 132 plound class Fits me better I tried conventional one off season, It felt like I was pulling forever! Sumo seems like I'm up in no time.

I do train conventional during any off season time, and switch back to sumo 12 weeks out from a meet

[WOOO]

considering the source, that's pretty much the funniest thing I've read here in a while.


 

geo left the x board?? 

[BFP]

Would you have more power in a sumo stance vs a conventional stance? Kinda like you get more out of a wider stance on the squat that wiht your feet close together?   Not only that but it seems to bring the distance you have to move the weight down SIGNIFICANTLY! Am I wront on any of these observations? The reason I ask, I love pulling conventional but, I just watched a video of a highschool kid pick up 830lbs in the deadlift in a singlet during a highschool powerlifting meet on youtube.

It would be a nice change of pace to flip flop both styles and see hwo well they work.

I pull sumo for 4 main reasons.  1. im too fat to get my hips down right conventional. 2. I have t-rex arms.  3. A long torso.  These make for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng conventional pull. 4. you can use more gear pulling sumo

Jason

[BFP]

have u ever deadlifted mr delusional ?

Surely of all the people on this board, youre not calling someone delusional. 

Jason

[BFP]

I'd call u delusional too since I bet your deadlift is about 225x3 

Wrong like 2 boys fukking in church

A near miss

Jason

[Hedgehog]

I have always competed sumo style.   5'6" 132 plound class Fits me better I tried conventional one off season, It felt like I was pulling forever! Sumo seems like I'm up in no time.

I do train conventional during any off season time, and switch back to sumo 12 weeks out from a meet

This is pretty much were I am at.

Although I train even more conventional, only the last 4-5 weeks are sumo only.

The sumo deadlift is IMO all about foot placement. Some guys don't find a position where they get any leverage.

Others do.

For awhile, I was hit or miss. It took me a year to get fairly consistent with the sumo.

[Cleanest Natural]

Wrong like 2 boys fukking in church

A near miss

Jason

Here u go "popo" ...( slang for homo  )

 

 

[BFP]

Here u go "popo" ...( slang for homo  )

 

 

Ive got some squat vids too, snakecharmer.
I thought this was a DL thread.

Jason
Jason

[The Squadfather]

Ive got some squat vids too, snakecharmer.
I thought this was a DL thread.

Jason
Jason

hahahahhaa, "snakecharmer", all kidding aside i find it hilarious to see "sevendickstotease" calling out a guy who has VIDEO PROOF of him squatting 800 pounds and pulling 650.

[BFP]

Should I post the squat vids for him too?

Jason

[Hedgehog]

Here u go "popo" ...( slang for homo  )

 

 

Last warning in this thread.

No trolling, bullshitting on the training board.

You wanna call me or anyone else a homo, fine, there are about twenty other boards to do that.

But not on the Training Board.

Cool?

[John O]

This is pretty much were I am at.

The sumo deadlift is IMO all about foot placement. Some guys don't find a position where they get any leverage.

Others do.

For awhile, I was hit or miss. It took me a year to get fairly consistent with the sumo.

I agree. once you find it though!!!!  My feet are where the ring is on the bar with my feet turned out just a little. I get that great drive you need off the floor.

[Hedgehog]

I agree. once you find it though!!!!  My feet are where the ring is on the bar with my feet turned out just a little. I get that great drive you need off the floor.

Ditto.

But right now, I seem to have a bit of a slump in my sumo technique actually.

One thing I've discovered, is that the sumo technique is very sensitive to strength increases as well as to increases in weight. A couple of pounds, and you're angles are slightly off.

[John O]

One thing I've discovered, is that the sumo technique is very sensitive to strength increases as well as to increases in weight. A couple of pounds, and you're angles are slightly off.

You mean in body weight or barbell weight?

[BFP]

Im sure he means bodyweight.  Mine makes huge flucuations sometimes, and it changes my form a touch.  As far as the sumo goes, Im trying to get a hook grip, as it seems that if I miss, its not due to a weakness, its due to the bar windmilling away from me and coming out of the groove.

Jason

[John O]

Yeah ok makes sense. As a lighter weight guy  my weight don't  fluculate that much so wasn't sure.

[Hedgehog]

Yeah ok makes sense. As a lighter weight guy  my weight don't  fluculate that much so wasn't sure.

Pegg's right.


Well, I'm around 198.

It seems that there are 2 factors that fcuks up my groove.

Strength increases

and

bodyweight increases.

Eg, currently my hamstring strength has gone up over the last 3-4 months. Done some SLDL's.

And I thought it would directly convert into a better deadlift. Not quite so, apparently. Right now, the timing of my pull is off.

Back in May, I had minor problems with the hamstrings, got a minor injury, which healed up in about 3 weeks. That isn't a problem anymore, and I will probably be able to pull more once I get the timing and groove back, but it's kind of frustrating to not "feel" that power zone.