Anyone concerned about Splenda use? (Or overuse!)

[HERACLES]

Regarding all the splenda use..when I think about it, I use a shit load as I assume everyone else here does in their coffee, and oatmeal.. apparently not only it can cause cancer but it also attributes to memory problems because if contains basically the same stuff that is in embalming fluid.. :eek:

Once in a while i use 2 teaspoons of sugar for my coffee..how much harm can 2 teaspoons of sugar do when your dieting? Im 20 weeks out right now..

Your thoughts?

[AZbodybuilder]

Regarding all the splenda use..when I think about it, I use a shit load as I assume everyone else here does in their coffee, and oatmeal.. apparently not only it can cause cancer but it also attributes to memory problems because if contains basically the same stuff that is in embalming fluid.. :eek:

Once in a while i use 2 teaspoons of sugar for my coffee..how much harm can 2 teaspoons of sugar do when your dieting? I'm 20 weeks out right now..

Your thoughts?

Do you have one shred of evidence that it causes cancer and memory problems ?
  I don't think using 2 teaspoons 20 weeks out is going to matter to much. Unless your having several cups a day. I avoid sugar when contest dieting for the last 12 weeks. I do count every packet of splenda a 1 gram of carbs being is slightly under a gram, its also about 4 calories per packet.

[busyB]

Regarding all the splenda use..when I think about it, I use a shit load as I assume everyone else here does in their coffee, and oatmeal.. apparently not only it can cause cancer but it also attributes to memory problems because if contains basically the same stuff that is in embalming fluid.. :eek:

Once in a while i use 2 teaspoons of sugar for my coffee..how much harm can 2 teaspoons of sugar do when your dieting? Im 20 weeks out right now..

Your thoughts?

Splenda = Sucralose

I believe you are thinking of Sweet n Low or Equal, which is aspartame.

[HERACLES]

Splenda = Sucralose

I believe you are thinking of Sweet n Low or Equal, which is aspartame.

Wow! I cant believe you guys dont know all the truth behind splenda. its the same crap thats in sweet and low! DO some research people! Im just as guilty as I learned this only a few months ago. I also thought splenda was harmless, and its not...quite the opposite...

One word...SUCRALOSE..and its in SPLENDA...

[Emmortal]

Here's some info:

Sucralose has been accepted by several national and international food safety regulatory bodies, including the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Joint Food and Agriculture Organization/World Health Organization Expert Committee on Food Additives, The European Union's Scientific Committee on Food, Health Protection Branch of Health and Welfare Canada and Food Standards Australia-New Zealand (FSANZ). According to the Canadian Diabetes Association, one can consume 15 mg/kg/day of Sucralose "on a daily basis over a ... lifetime without any adverse effects".[8] For a 150 lb person, 15 mg/kg is about 1000 mg, equivalent to about 75 packets of Splenda or the sweetness of 612 gm or 2500 kcal of sugar.

“In determining the safety of sucralose, the FDA reviewed data from more than 110 studies in humans and animals. Many of the studies were designed to identify possible toxic effects including carcinogenic, reproductive and neurological effects. No such effects were found, and FDA's approval is based on the finding that sucralose is safe for human consumption.”[9] For example, McNeil Nutritional LLC studies submitted as part of its U.S. FDA Food Additive Petition 7A3987, indicated that "in the 2-year rodent bioassays...there was no evidence of carcinogenic activity for either sucralose or its hydrolysis products...."[10]

After FDA approval, a study published in the Journal of Head and Face Pain reported sucralose as a possible trigger for migraine patients.[11] Another study published in the Journal of Mutation Research linked high doses (2000 mg per kg) of sucralose to DNA damage in mice.[12]

Concerns have been raised about the effect of sucralose on the thymus, an organ that is important to the immune system. A report from NICNAS cites two studies on rats, both of which found "a significant decrease in mean thymus weight" at a certain dose.[13] The sucralose dosages which caused the thymus gland effects referenced in the NICNAS report was 3000 mg/kg bw/day for 28 days. For an 80 kg (176 lb) human, this would mean a 28-day intake of 240 grams of sucralose, which is equivalent to more than 20,000 individual Splenda packets/day for approximately one month. The dose required to provoke any immunological response was 750 mg/kg bw/day,[14] or 60 grams of sucralose per day, which is more than 5,000 Splenda packets/day (there are 11.9 mg of sucralose in a 1g retail packet of Splenda). These and other studies were considered by regulators before concluding that sucralose was safe. However, because some ingested sucralose is broken down and absorbed by the body there is concern that chronic consumption may lead to thymus shrinkage or other side-effects.

The bulk of sucralose ingested does not leave the gastrointestinal tract and is directly excreted in the feces while 11-27% of it is absorbed.[2] The amount that is absorbed from the GI tract is largely removed from the blood stream by the kidneys and excreted in the urine with 20-30% of the absorbed sucralose being metabolized.[2] Sucralose is digestible by a number of microorganisms and is broken down once released into the environment.[citation needed]

Splenda usually contains 95% dextrose (the "right-handed" isomer of glucose - see dextrorotation and chirality), which the body readily metabolizes. The safety information that many specialists and the media give to consumers is that Splenda is safe to ingest as a diabetic sugar substitute "free of problems".


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Up to 75 packets a day over the lifetime of a human being doesn't sound too bad now does it?

[busyB]

Wow! I cant believe you guys dont know all the truth behind splenda. its the same crap thats in sweet and low! DO some research people! Im just as guilty as I learned this only a few months ago. I also thought splenda was harmless, and its not...quite the opposite...

One word...SUCRALOSE..and its in SPLENDA...

Do some research? You might want to take your own advice.

Aspartame is not Sucralose, very different. As you can see from my post, I said Sucralose is Splenda.

Just because this bald dildo on youtube said it is bad, he did not prove anything. He even says at the end that "high amounts for a long period of time". High amounts equals what, a box a day?? Two Packs a day??

If you are so worried, use Stevia, an all natural herb sweetner.

[HERACLES]

Do some research? You might want to take your own advice.

Aspartame is not Sucralose, very different. As you can see from my post, I said Sucralose is Splenda.

Just because this bald dildo on youtube said it is bad, he did not prove anything. He even says at the end that "high amounts for a long period of time". High amounts equals what, a box a day?? Two Packs a day??

If you are so worried, use Stevia, an all natural herb sweetner.

Sorry man, didnt want to come off like that. Believe me I think splenda if safe is the nicest invention ever...But as you agree, Sucralose is splenda and Sucralose is a carcinogen. The studies havent covered use over a long period of time. There is a gap.

No long term testing!!! WE take it every day, for probably all our life..Im done taking it I think, its scary...

[busyB]

Sorry man, didnt want to come off like that. Believe me I think splenda if safe is the nicest invention ever...But as you agree, Sucralose is splenda and Sucralose is a carcinogen. The studies havent covered use over a long period of time. There is a gap.

No long term testing!!! WE take it every day, for probably all our life..Im done taking it I think, its scary...

Seriously man, if you are that worried about it, try STEVIA. Any health food store sells it and is just an herbal sweetner.

I think a couple packs a day of Splenda is not going to be too damaging. But what do I know, I am a bodybuilder and we don't care about health, right?? 

[Necrosis]

theres no long term studies on most drugs either. i would switch to splenda or just drink it black man. rat studies showed its a carcinogen but you cant extrapolate animal studies to human, and even then the dosage was extremely high, almost impossible to obtain otherwise.

but man if your concerned i would switch like busy suggested. why not eliminate things that may counter your goal of health? it makes no sense to me.

[busyB]

theres no long term studies on most drugs either. i would switch to splenda or just drink it black man. rat studies showed its a carcinogen but you cant extrapolate animal studies to human, and even then the dosage was extremely high, almost impossible to obtain otherwise.
but man if your concerned i would switch like busy suggested. why not eliminate things that may counter your goal of health? it makes no sense to me.

Too lazy to go look for it, but wasn't that whole study done with Rats using Aspartame? Would be like us using 10,000 packs a day...hhhmmm..I would probably have a reaction of some sort with that dose!

Herc is worried about Splenda which I believe is better for you than Aspartame.

smoke, I am impressed, the grammer and punctuation is getting better 

[Necrosis]

Too lazy to go look for it, but wasn't that whole study done with Rats using Aspartame? Would be like us using 10,000 packs a day...hhhmmm..I would probably have a reaction of some sort with that dose!

Herc is worried about Splenda which I believe is better for you than Aspartame.

smoke, I am impressed, the grammer and punctuation is getting better 

no every sweetner has had multiple safety studies done on it, its the law. some of them have been banned and re established


imo, they are unsafe for high dosage use in the long term. especially aspartame

[candidizzle]

sucralose is a much better option than aspartame...because aspartame temporarily suppresses thyroid function when ingested... and over time it can lead to permanent thyroid malfunction.

[Deicide]

sucralose is a much better option than aspartame...because aspartame temporarily suppresses thyroid function when ingested... and over time it can lead to permanent thyroid malfunction.

Thus speaketh the expert, Canned Jizz Load!

[Necrosis]

sucralose is a much better option than aspartame...because aspartame temporarily suppresses thyroid function when ingested... and over time it can lead to permanent thyroid malfunction.

does it cause the negative feedback loop in the hypothalamus to downregulate causing downstream thyroid disfunction? or is there another reason?

[busyB]

does it cause the negative feedback loop in the hypothalamus to downregulate causing downstream thyroid disfunction? or is there another reason?

smoke, you do realize candi thinks a "negative feeback loop" is going the wrong way on the freeway, right?!

Seriously, he is only a kid with obvious lack of education and his advice is scary. I think he needs to take some of your classes!

[suckmymuscle]

Anyone concerned about Splenda use (Or overuse!)

  No, I'm more concerned about the leaking of Uranium 238 isotopes from the nuclear power plant a few miles away from my house. That makes my concern for poisons in food less important.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[candidizzle]

does it cause the negative feedback loop in the hypothalamus to downregulate causing downstream thyroid disfunction? or is there another reason?

shit i dont know..im just quoting a couple hundred studies' conclusions..



anyways..i used splenda this morning in a protein shake..
table spoon of splenda
one scoop vanilla ON
tablespoon imitation vanilla extract
tablespoon cinnamon
tablespoon pumpkin pie seasoining
6 eggs with one yolk
10 gm creatine mono
ice+water

[Necrosis]

shit i dont know..im just quoting a couple hundred studies' conclusions..



anyways..i used splenda this morning in a protein shake..
table spoon of splenda
one scoop vanilla ON
tablespoon imitation vanilla extract
tablespoon cinnamon
tablespoon pumpkin pie seasoining
6 eggs with one yolk
10 gm creatine mono
ice+water

dude the conclusions are only as good as the methodology, what kind of studies where they?

[candidizzle]

dude the conclusions are only as good as the methodology, what kind of studies where they?

i dont know. you can google it and you will see the vast amount of sources and studies that im referencing.
i can tell you though...i was having a horrid time this winter staying warm. i mean..i was shivering and cold as fuck even in my own house with clothes on...(heater was on and i live in cali!)..    but once i stopped drinkin the aspartame(and also started ending my showers with ice cold water), i am now like a polar bear....in fact im chillling in just my undeerwear right now...and its the coldest day weve gotten so far this year.

so whether or not you find one of those studies to be solid proof, take my word from personal experience..