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Clemens' wife and GH
« on: February 09, 2008, 05:11:09 AM »

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/02/08/2008-02-08_source_brian_mcnamee_testified_roger_cle-2.html






"Brian McNamee told congressional investigators Thursday in a sworn deposition that Roger Clemens' wife used human growth hormone, according to a source familiar with McNamee's testimony.

The source said McNamee testified that he injected Debbie Clemens with growth hormone and believed she took the drug to get in shape before she appeared with the pitcher in Sports Illustrated's swimsuit issue in 2003. She appeared with her husband in a photograph taken in Central Park in the magazine's Feb. 18, 2003, issue wearing a bikini and holding a bat over her shoulders while Roger Clemens reclined on the ground in his Yankee uniform.

"McNamee discussed his wife's use before the committee," according to the source. "She was trying to get in shape for the SI cover. He told them the story that Debbie took growth."

McNamee, Clemens' former trainer, testified that he injected her at the pitcher's direction, according to the source.

McNamee was speaking under oath before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which will hold a hearing on the Mitchell Report on steroid use in baseball on Wednesday.

Clemens' lawyer, Rusty Hardin, called the claims that Clemens directed the injections "a colossal lie."

Hardin reacted angrily to the story, which was first reported Friday on the Daily News Web site, while Lanny Breuer, another Clemens attorney, expressed disdain for McNamee's claims.

"Did Roger get the Cy Young because his wife took the HGH?" asked Breuer.

"Let me repeat one more time - this guy is a colossal liar and he has absolutely no shame," Hardin said. "This guy never ceases to amaze me. I think it reveals what he's really about. First, he throws out waste and then he wants to talk about this."

Hardin was referring to the release Thursday by McNamee's lawyers of two photographs showing needles, vials and bloody gauze McNamee says contain Clemens' blood and DNA mixed with steroids and human growth hormone. McNamee, who turned the evidence over to federal investigators last month, said he had saved the material since 2001.

McNamee's attorneys, Richard Emery, Earl Ward and Mark Paoletta, said Friday they have not discussed or released their client's testimony and will not do so.

"The issue is Roger Clemens and his use of steroids and why he's not telling the truth," Emery said. "The issue is not Debbie Clemens.


Debbie Clemens, who is active in charity work in Texas and designs high-end baseball-themed clothing, was one of several athletes' wives who appeared in pictorials in the 2003 swimsuit issue.

She discussed the photo shoot on her Web site.

"Roger came to me one day and told me that we had been asked to do a photo shoot for Sports Illustrated," Debbie Clemens recalls. "I had major anxiety! I was a 39-year-old mother of 4! Once I realized that this WAS going to be a reality, I decided I had to give it everything I had."

"My mind was set," Debbie Clemens continued. "I am not a risk-taker, but have since learned that with great risk, sometimes comes great reward. The responses from that experience have been wonderful and I feel it was a turning point in my life."

Roger and Debbie Clemens were married in 1984 and have four sons.

Roger Clemens met with members of the committee Thursday and Friday in an attempt to convince them that he did not use steroids or human growth hormone, as claimed by McNamee.

Following McNamee's seven-hour testimony before congressional investigators Thursday, Ward challenged Clemens to give up a sample of his DNA for a laboratory that is examining the materials, which may also carry the Rocket's fingerprints as well as his genetic coding.

"Roger Clemens has put himself in a position where his legacy as the greatest pitcher in baseball will depend less on his ERA and more on his DNA," said Ward.

In an early evening press conference Thursday, Clemens and his lawyers shot back, questioning McNamee's motives and reliability and accusing him of manufacturing evidence.

"In my view, you're about to see the second edition of the Duke case," Hardin said, referring to the now-discredited rape charges filed against lacrosse players at the school. "I warn you all now, that five to six or seven months from now, any of you that have jumped on this bandwagon about Roger taking steroids and assumed that anything Brian McNamee has to say about Roger is true, will be embarrassed. This is a fabricated story."

Friday, Emery stood firm by his claims that evidence will determine the course of the case.

"This case to me is about science now," Emery said."
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Re: Clemens' wife and GH
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2008, 05:24:41 AM »
i'm going to go out on a limb and same mcnamee is telling the truth, wtf does he have to gain from lying about clemens and his wife...on the other hand clemens has everything to lose...but if mcnamee is lying then he's a pretty big POS

on a sort of different topic, Blinky can u find some nudes of clemens wife and post them in the MILFS thread, that would be great!!!!! ;D

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2008, 05:27:12 AM »

Drug pushers are never credible sources. 

Period. 

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2008, 11:47:03 AM »
Drug pushers are never credible sources. 

Period. 

But the users are??   ::)

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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2008, 11:49:45 AM »
I've lost all respect for Clemens as a man (not as a pitcher)......not because of what the trainer said, but because of what Pettite said.


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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2008, 11:55:39 AM »
This looks like a commercial for gh..she looks great

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 12:07:08 PM »
I still don't get how there would be syringes with clemens blood on them, gear is shot IM and GH is shot under your skin there shouldn't be blood on or in either.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2008, 12:14:34 PM »
Drug pushers are never credible sources. 

Period. 
how do you know he pushed and clemens didnt ask him to get it, honestly it shouldnt be that big a deal the vast majority are probably on something I would have alot more respect for him if he just admitted it

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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2008, 12:19:51 PM »

They would fit in great in Vegas.  Breast implants, gh, and steroids. ::)  How original.
At least Clemens stands to gain millions from drug use and has tremendous talent.
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2008, 12:23:10 PM »
hahahhaa, brutal 13 and a half inch arms on Clemens in the second pic.

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Re: Clemens' wife and GH
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 01:07:59 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 01:42:12 PM »
how do you know he pushed...

He claims he's been the 'supplier' for multiple individuals.

Assuming there's any truth to the claim, that would make him a pusher.

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 01:50:51 PM »
Amazing how some on ere think tht taking GH or roids made the ball zzero-in on being a strike or improved his delivery.  If any it might have helped him stay stronger so he could pitch longer cause his muscle recovery or some strength bu Clemens has been  hard thrwer for many many many years including college, and high school.  He has always been a big guy too. Baseball takes a lot of skills roids do not help.  Thy dono improve your had and eye cooridination, hey do not improve the natural ability to throw and the motion.  They may help when you do make contact on the ball with the bat and I do see them helping with speed when pitching or throwing.  But Roger has trown bullets his whole career.  He is throwing slower now than 10 years ago. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 01:55:41 PM »
This is gonna make so many more women want gh now. 

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Re: Clemens' wife and GH
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 02:06:18 PM »
Clemens looks like shit. If he likes shebeasts so much then maybe he should join Getbig and send ripitup a pm?

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2008, 06:55:27 PM »
I still don't get how there would be syringes with clemens blood on them, gear is shot IM and GH is shot under your skin there shouldn't be blood on or in either.

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growth should be administered im though it can be injected sq it will be utilized better via im or iv,,gh15 warmly recomedn to inject growth im,,

in general roger clemens is same as any professional athletes ,,hormonized,,his wife look like the typical older 30-50 year old whore/skank/money chaser that leads her man at her will,,she used growth ,,he used growth ,,all american sports use growth ,,any one on american soil with personality complexes and bi polar problems with anxiety and other mental issues use growth now days ,,america between 2000-2007 became the country of artificial means to look better among them is your good ole gh ,,

roger clemens is a liar ,,his wife a skank,,but he is no difference from barry bonds,,the only reason americans are "better" in sports through out the years is the money and drug connection which is,, for american teams oweners that are deeply connectd to goverment by the way,, highly important,,

take hormones out of american football and you got no more game!
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2008, 10:18:18 AM »
He claims he's been the 'supplier' for multiple individuals.

Assuming there's any truth to the claim, that would make him a pusher.
supplier doesnt make him a pusher it could just mean he was the middle man b/c clemens couldnt get it on his own, pusher infers that he said "hey man i got some good shit you should really try it" but clemens could have said "hey man i hear good stuff about steriods and hgh you think you can get me some"

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Re: Clemens' wife and GH
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2008, 05:46:32 AM »
"Take steroids out of American football and you'd have no more game".Geeze,take steroids out of the eastern block countries and they would have NEVER won one medal in the Olympics.

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2008, 08:21:21 AM »
i think she is a personal trainer..good abs

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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2008, 08:33:51 AM »
I still don't get how there would be syringes with clemens blood on them, gear is shot IM and GH is shot under your skin there shouldn't be blood on or in either.

Um, if his trainer still has any of those used syringes (and why would he unless he were planning on using them later as evidence?—like Monica and the blue dress) then there is traceable blood on them.  Any needle that pierces the skin, no matter how small, has blood on it from the person who used it. 

Even now, many months later, that blood can be tested and linked to the person whom was injected.  ::)


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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2008, 11:42:29 AM »
the GH stands for great head    i heard she blew that guy mcnamme or something roger dont you get it he was injecting her hard
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2008, 11:56:30 AM »
Um, if his trainer still has any of those used syringes (and why would he unless he were planning on using them later as evidence?—like Monica and the blue dress) then there is traceable blood on them.  Any needle that pierces the skin, no matter how small, has blood on it from the person who used it. 

Even now, many months later, that blood can be tested and linked to the person whom was injected.  ::)

I was wondering that.

The trainer planned all along to burn him.

Those syringes were insurance.  The minute he got popped for anything (or needed to borrow a few bucks from his good friend Roger) he had a smoking gun in his possession.
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Re: Clemens' wife and GH
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2008, 06:06:18 PM »
I was wondering that.

The trainer planned all along to burn him.

Those syringes were insurance.  The minute he got popped for anything (or needed to borrow a few bucks from his good friend Roger) he had a smoking gun in his possession.


My thoughts exactly!  It is the only logical conclusion.  Why else would a trainer save months/years old used syringes from a star athlete?  Sigh... you can't trust anyone!  :'(