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McCain’s Extra-Territorial Birth Raises Questions About Ability to Become President
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, February 28, 2008
 
The all-but certain nomination of John McCain to be the Republican candidate for president has again raised a question nagging the Arizona senator: does his birth outside the United States prevent him from holding the nation’s highest office?

McCain, part of a storied naval family and a Vietnam War hero in his own right, was born in 1936 on a military installation in the Panama Canal Zone. The issue of his birthplace raises the question of whether it qualifies as a foreign birth and therefore violates the constitutional requirement that a commander in chief be a “natural-born citizen.”

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham told the New York Times that it would be unthinkable for McCain - or anyone born on a military installation - not to be allowed to run for president.

“[McCain’s father] was posted there on orders from the United States government,” Graham told the Times. “If that becomes a problem, we need to tell every military family that your kid can’t be president if the take an overseas assignment.

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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/02/28/mccains-extra-territorial-birth-raises-questions-about-ability-to-become-president/

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This is a non-issue.  He was born on US soil,right?  Was the base considered US soil?

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So McCain is an alien?

I thought so all along.

It's in the eyes.  You can always tell by the eyes.

We don't need extra-terrestrials in our government, thank you.

Al Gore was enough.

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This is a non-issue.  He was born on US soil,right?  Was the base considered US soil?

I really don't think so.  But i really don't know for sure.

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This was brought up on a local radio show about a month ago. Here's waht I found back then. Doesn't seem to be an issue for McCain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_citizen#Through_birth_abroad_to_two_United_States_citizens

Birth within the United States
Main article: Birthright citizenship in the United States of America
Children born in the United States (including not only the 50 states and the District of Columbia, but also, in most cases, U.S. Territories, such as Puerto Rico, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, the U.S. Virgin Islands, in addition to many current states which were territories at the time of the birth of some individuals now living, e.g. Alaska and Hawaii), are U.S. citizens at birth (unless born to foreign diplomatic staff), regardless of the citizenship or nationality of the parents (see Jus soli). This has become controversial, as some non-resident parents, especially undocumented immigrants, enter the United States to give birth, so that their children, often called anchor babies, will be U.S. citizens. A birth certificate is considered evidence of citizenship. This differs from most western nations; countries of the European Union which awarded citizenship to children born there (such as Ireland) closed this possibility.
The U.S. citizenship status of children born in the United States to non-citizen parents has been generally accepted as settled law since 1898, when the Supreme Court held in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark that almost all such children were entitled to citizenship by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. Although efforts have been made in Congress, from time to time, to overturn the Wong Kim Ark ruling or limit its effect, via either a new amendment to the Constitution or ordinary legislation, no such attempt has ever succeeded.
[edit]Through birth abroad to two United States citizens
See also: jus sanguinis
In most cases, one is a U.S. citizen if both of the following are true:
Both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth
At least one parent lived in the United States prior to the child's birth.
A person's record of birth abroad, if registered with a U.S. consulate or embassy, is proof of his or her citizenship. He or she may also apply for a passport or a Certificate of Citizenship to have his or her citizenship recognized.

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Doesnt matter anyway.    Only about 6 people would vote for him anyway.   Wait, make that 4 if limbaugh and hannity dont either. ;D

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Doesnt matter anyway.    Only about 6 people would vote for him anyway.   Wait, make that 4 if limbaugh and hannity dont either. ;D

I don't think so.   In the end what is the "voter" population going to vote for?   Is the 40-70 year white guy or gal going to vote for Obama or for McCain?   I just don;t see that group voting for Hilary or Obama.   

Don't get me wrong.   I hope you are right, but i think we aren't going to see a landslide.

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I don't think so.   In the end what is the "voter" population going to vote for?   Is the 40-70 year white guy or gal going to vote for Obama or for McCain?   I just don;t see that group voting for Hilary or Obama.   

Don't get me wrong.   I hope you are right, but i think we aren't going to see a landslide.



Im sure the current administration will fuck with the voting machines so its not a landslide.  But in reality i think it will be.

As it is, the middle class has taken the biggest hit with the troubles of this admin.  Most of the lower class would go dem anyway, and now you have alot of those 40 - 70 yr old white guys who are pissed too.

So its a landslide from the numbers....2 classes against the Elite upper class.  But we can expect alot of corruption in the coming months to make it look like an even race.....

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I don't think so.   In the end what is the "voter" population going to vote for?   Is the 40-70 year white guy or gal going to vote for Obama or for McCain?   I just don;t see that group voting for Hilary or Obama.   

Don't get me wrong.   I hope you are right, but i think we aren't going to see a landslide.

You think McCain will win in a landslide?

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You think McCain will win in a landslide?

lol  no.


I was saying i didn't think Obama was going to win in a landslide.   If he even wins.

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lol  no.


I was saying i didn't think Obama was going to win in a landslide.   If he even wins.

Ah so.   :)  I agree. 

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So its a landslide from the numbers....2 classes against the Elite upper class.  But we can expect alot of corruption in the coming months to make it look like an even race.....

You're not accounting for the fact that the lower class thinks they're middle class, and the middle thinks they're upper-middle or upper.

Case in point is getbig. 

It will be pretty close, and frankly I'm concerned that the Obamania meteor might be burnt out by then.  However, the sub-prime crisis should still be taking names and kicking ass, so who knows. 

Bottom line is that Obama is the best candidate in the race....