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Anxiety
« on: March 19, 2008, 11:13:54 AM »
anyone here ever try phenibut, L-Tryptophen, or Kava kava???? ( comments??)

plus is there anything else i can use for Anxiety other then 5-HTP and Valerian root,
phenibut, L-Tryptophen, or Kava kava.?


thanks



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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 04:02:48 PM »
meditate.


phenibut is good, but not practical for everyday use. L-theanine can be taken everyday, inositol, picamilon.


how severe is your anxiety, and what type of anxiety do you have?

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2008, 08:09:02 PM »
GABA

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2008, 08:31:47 PM »
solve your problem(s)

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 05:44:06 AM »
anyone here ever try phenibut, L-Tryptophen, or Kava kava???? ( comments??)

plus is there anything else i can use for Anxiety other then 5-HTP and Valerian root,
phenibut, L-Tryptophen, or Kava kava.?


thanks





A wide and tantalising variety ofbenzodiazepines:

bromazepam (Lexotanil or Lexotan)
clonazepam (Klonopin)
clorazepate (Tranxene)
chlordiazepoxide (Librium)
diazepam (Valium)
flurazepam (Dalmane)
lorazepam (Ativan or Temesta)
nitrazepam (Mogadon)
oxazepam (Serax)
temazepam (Restoril)
alprazolam (Xanax)
estazolam (ProSom)
flunitrazepam (Rohypnol)
lormetazepam (Loramet)
mexazolam (Sedoxil)
midazolam (Dormicum)
triazolam (Halcion)

Take your pick! ;D
I hate the State.

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 08:05:10 AM »
Alprazolam is a triazolobenzodiazepine,[8] that is, a benzodiazepine with a triazolo-ring attached to its structure. Benzodiazepines produce a variety of effects by modulating the GABA subtype of the GABA receptor, the most prolific inhibitory receptor within the brain. The GABA receptor is made up from 5 subunits out of a possible 19, and GABA receptors made up of different combinations of subunits have different properties, different locations within the brain and importantly, different activities in regards to benzodiazepines.

In order for GABA receptors to be sensitive to the action of benzodiazepines they need to contain an α and a γ subunit, where the benzodiazepine binds. Once bound, the benzodiazepine locks the GABA receptor into a conformation where the neurotransmitter GABA has much higher affinity for the GABA receptor, increasing the frequency of opening of the associated Chloride ion channel and hyperpolarising the membrane. This potentiates the inhibitory effect of the available GABA leading to sedatory and anxiolytic effects. As mentioned, different benzodiazepines can have different affinities for GABA receptors made up of different collection of subunits. For instance, benzodiazepines with high activity at the α1 are associated with sedation whereas those with higher affinity for GABA receptors containing α2 and/or α3 subunits have greater anxiolytic activity.

The binding site for benzodiazepines is distinct from the binding site for barbiturates and GABA on the GABA receptor.

There is some evidence for antidepressant treatment of clinical depression in out patient settings, evidence for inpatients is lacking;[9] other benzodiazepines are not known to have antidepressant activity.


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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 09:30:43 AM »
Alprazolam is a triazolobenzodiazepine,[8] that is, a benzodiazepine with a triazolo-ring attached to its structure. Benzodiazepines produce a variety of effects by modulating the GABA subtype of the GABA receptor, the most prolific inhibitory receptor within the brain. The GABA receptor is made up from 5 subunits out of a possible 19, and GABA receptors made up of different combinations of subunits have different properties, different locations within the brain and importantly, different activities in regards to benzodiazepines.

In order for GABA receptors to be sensitive to the action of benzodiazepines they need to contain an α and a γ subunit, where the benzodiazepine binds. Once bound, the benzodiazepine locks the GABA receptor into a conformation where the neurotransmitter GABA has much higher affinity for the GABA receptor, increasing the frequency of opening of the associated Chloride ion channel and hyperpolarising the membrane. This potentiates the inhibitory effect of the available GABA leading to sedatory and anxiolytic effects. As mentioned, different benzodiazepines can have different affinities for GABA receptors made up of different collection of subunits. For instance, benzodiazepines with high activity at the α1 are associated with sedation whereas those with higher affinity for GABA receptors containing α2 and/or α3 subunits have greater anxiolytic activity.

The binding site for benzodiazepines is distinct from the binding site for barbiturates and GABA on the GABA receptor.

There is some evidence for antidepressant treatment of clinical depression in out patient settings, evidence for inpatients is lacking;[9] other benzodiazepines are not known to have antidepressant activity.




Im sorry but if your implying that GABA and benzos are the same thing your mistaken.

GABA has a ton of problems crossing the blood brain barrier.

your argument is like saying SSRIS increase serotonin (indirectly) so why not take serotonin.

why do you think benzos are calles benzos? they bind to the benzodiazepine receptor on the gaba complex, GABA would not do this.

The jury is still out on gaba.

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 09:46:03 AM »

Im sorry but if your implying that GABA and benzos are the same thing your mistaken.

GABA has a ton of problems crossing the blood brain barrier.

your argument is like saying SSRIS increase serotonin (indirectly) so why not take serotonin.

why do you think benzos are calles benzos? they bind to the benzodiazepine receptor on the gaba complex, GABA would not do this.

The jury is still out on gaba.

Not saying that GABA is a drug, and what jury do you speak of?

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Re: Anxiety
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2008, 10:18:06 AM »
why did you post that info on benzo's? everyone knows that they work gabaergics. i didnt say you said it was a drug, it is an amino acid, im just saying i dont get your point? Alcohol also binds the gaba receptors, so does lyrica, gabapentin,ghb, valerian etc.

gaba may not cross the blood brain barrier