Lets see if we can clear this up about deca

[phenom]

I've always read everything available about steroids, the newer the info the better. So I have always heard that test is a must with deca as deca shuts you down hard. Case studies have shown 100mgs of deca meant complete shutdown. Then I came into contact with a 70's bodybuilder nice build no one famous. He informed me deca never shut him down and everybody back then ran it with dbol and winstol. I thought ok 10mgs of dbol provides complete androgen replacement so its possible. Then I did some more reading on my own finding that allot of top guys from that era don't even use test Samir, Gaspari, ect. So I tried it for myself 40mgs a day of Anabol with 400 mgs of Deca Norma a week. I did 12 weeks discontinuing the Anabol after 5 weeks. To my surprise no shut down and I only lost 5 lbs after the cycle with no pct. This was my experience in what I would have called a wortless cycle months ago, now I'm just confused and would like some other peoples experiences.

[Slintowin4424]

Yeah but Ill bet you couldn't get a hard to save your life

[thelamefalsehood]

Read this thread, talks about everything you are mentioning. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=200590.0 Disgusted has some very interesting points.

[phenom]

Yeah but Ill bet you couldn't get a hard to save your life

No kidding when I say I had no side effects not even that. I'm starting to wonder if some people just respond much better to anabolics than androgen's. I have never gotten much more than bloat from test and I have always used hg. All this time I always used test and pct and when I told that to the 70's bb he laughed at me. His exact words " You kids are to concerned with size and not muscle, 10lbs of real muscle beats 20 pounds of test bloat". I'm starting to believe what Disgusted was talking about.

[Van_Bilderass]

I've always read everything available about steroids, the newer the info the better. So I have always heard that test is a must with deca as deca shuts you down hard. Case studies have shown 100mgs of deca meant complete shutdown. Then I came into contact with a 70's bodybuilder nice build no one famous. He informed me deca never shut him down and everybody back then ran it with dbol and winstol. I thought ok 10mgs of dbol provides complete androgen replacement so its possible. Then I did some more reading on my own finding that allot of top guys from that era don't even use test Samir, Gaspari, ect. So I tried it for myself 40mgs a day of Anabol with 400 mgs of Deca Norma a week. I did 12 weeks discontinuing the Anabol after 5 weeks. To my surprise no shut down and I only lost 5 lbs after the cycle with no pct. This was my experience in what I would have called a wortless cycle months ago, now I'm just confused and would like some other peoples experiences.

You are really talking about libido, not about being shut down or not. Of course Deca will shut you down. The question is whether Deca is sufficiently androgenic, or has sufficient neural effects, to maintain normal libido. For you it's obviously sufficient.

You do not absolutely need test in every cycle. Deca wasn't made to be stacked with any other steroid.

[rawdawg]

you got bunk gear

[Captain Equipoise]

I hate deca, tried it twice in my life... made me feel depressed, down, bloated as fuck and couldn't find a hard on to save my life!.. same results both times. Never again.

[phenom]

You are really talking about libido, not about being shut down or not. Of course Deca will shut you down. The question is whether Deca is sufficiently androgenic, or has sufficient neural effects, to maintain normal libido. For you it's obviously sufficient.

You do not absolutely need test in every cycle. Deca wasn't made to be stacked with any other steroid.

Thanks for the info thats clears up some of my confusion.

you got bunk gear

No def not I use the guy trusted by those in the know and he only provides hg direct from the pharm

[candidizzle]

hwo do you guys think eq compares to deca?

i know gh15 strongly recommends deca (spec. norma deca)..  but i have also read (dave palumbo said this) that Eq is a little bit stronger and is better for off season mass than deca..

[Slintowin4424]

hwo do you guys think eq compares to deca?

i know gh15 strongly recommends deca (spec. norma deca)..  but i have also read (dave palumbo said this) that Eq is a little bit stronger and is better for off season mass than deca..

if going for mass definetly Deca no doubt it increases protein synthesis but with a high bloat to it.  I think the only reason that palumbo says he likes eq is because it makes you extremely hungery  if and only if it is legit.  But you must take at least 600mg also the water retention is not near as high