I've always read everything available about steroids, the newer the info the better. So I have always heard that test is a must with deca as deca shuts you down hard. Case studies have shown 100mgs of deca meant complete shutdown. Then I came into contact with a 70's bodybuilder nice build no one famous. He informed me deca never shut him down and everybody back then ran it with dbol and winstol. I thought ok 10mgs of dbol provides complete androgen replacement so its possible. Then I did some more reading on my own finding that allot of top guys from that era don't even use test Samir, Gaspari, ect. So I tried it for myself 40mgs a day of Anabol with 400 mgs of Deca Norma a week. I did 12 weeks discontinuing the Anabol after 5 weeks. To my surprise no shut down and I only lost 5 lbs after the cycle with no pct. This was my experience in what I would have called a wortless cycle months ago, now I'm just confused and would like some other peoples experiences.