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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2008, 09:32:23 PM »
Same with me. The concept blows my mind. I used to know a guy who would take a low dose of PCP before training. He eventually separated his shoulder while training & didn't even know it.

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On PCP, I'd imagine the pain wouldn't be an issue.

Wouldn't want to be doing squats with that loss of sensation.

i grew up with a bunch of people who ended up being meth addicts by the time we were 18 and i'll tell you it was some fucked up shit to watch. i tried it once and i hated the way i felt on it...i could tell plenty of horror stories about meth and heroin but i lack the time today.

Nubain leads to heroin like valium leads to xanax. sooner or later the nubain user will want something more powerful. i've heard plenty of stories about bodybuilders who went from bain right into heroin, so i think it's a very possible bridge.

i've trained with guys who shot nubain before training, i've trained with powerlifters who did bumps of coke or meth before training swearing it made them stronger. i've also trained with guys who chugged a large expresso coffee 30 minutes before kick boxing...so i've seen a lot.

lucky for me i don't have an addictive personality, mainly because many of my family members are alcoholics and some have been to rehab for coke/meth more than once. so i've seen the demons these drugs can bring out. i also had the pleasure of carrying my halfdead friend down from his apartment so the paramedics could place him on a stretcher, he died of a xanax/alcohol overdose after i just helped him get off meth...looooong story there but i wrote it on the gossip board a while back.

so for me, drugs have no place in my life, i'll take modafinil(focus/alert script drug) during exams for my MBA but other than that i don't touch anything.

well, i got off track but i just wanted to speak my mind.

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Sounds like you've been through alot of shit, Overload.

With friends like those........

I use ECA/Clen on a regular basis, but all it does is heighten the CNS which in turn helps with powerlifts and strength movements.

Nothing addicting about it.

It serves the purpose.

Nubain is very addictive, I shoot up IV about 8 times a day.  It is really hard to come off of.  Sometimes I wish I never started, but then when I am off I miss not having emotions.  It costs me about 1000 a month, but without it now I would go insane.  Dont touch it kids, it will get ahold of you before you would even know it.

Self-medicating to stunt emotional feeling isn't the best idea, bro.

How about seeing a therapist?   :-X



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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2008, 10:45:17 AM »
 ::)  how about re-hab!

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« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2008, 03:24:03 AM »
i grew up with a bunch of people who ended up being meth addicts by the time we were 18 and i'll tell you it was some fucked up shit to watch. i tried it once and i hated the way i felt on it...i could tell plenty of horror stories about meth and heroin but i lack the time today.

Nubain leads to heroin like valium leads to xanax. sooner or later the nubain user will want something more powerful. i've heard plenty of stories about bodybuilders who went from bain right into heroin, so i think it's a very possible bridge.

i've trained with guys who shot nubain before training, i've trained with powerlifters who did bumps of coke or meth before training swearing it made them stronger. i've also trained with guys who chugged a large expresso coffee 30 minutes before kick boxing...so i've seen a lot.

lucky for me i don't have an addictive personality, mainly because many of my family members are alcoholics and some have been to rehab for coke/meth more than once. so i've seen the demons these drugs can bring out. i also had the pleasure of carrying my halfdead friend down from his apartment so the paramedics could place him on a stretcher, he died of a xanax/alcohol overdose after i just helped him get off meth...looooong story there but i wrote it on the gossip board a while back.

so for me, drugs have no place in my life, i'll take modafinil(focus/alert script drug) during exams for my MBA but other than that i don't touch anything.

well, i got off track but i just wanted to speak my mind.

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I lurk around some of the message boards because it absolutely amazes me the different things and the amounts of those things a "normal" person will inject into themselves.   I say normal because some of the "bodybuilding" heaviest drug users I've seen really aren't that big either relative to the shit they are injecting into themselves.  Humans by and large are lazy and want the short way to quick rewards.   

Its also amazing to me how different people get hooked on different drugs---and some of them are much much easier for them than others.   Narcotic and methamphetamine addiction are, in my opinion, two of the hardest to deal with other than maybe cigarettes and caffiene.  My technician is a smoker who I'll swear would cut her foot off rather than give up her cigarettes.  She started smoking heavy after her divorce, is medically trained and knows the health risks, and is going to keep smoking.  My grandmother smoked for 35 years, then one day just quit cold turkey.  Didn't have a cigarette until the day she died after that.  I'll freely admit nd joke about caffiene addiction---which comes directly as a result of forced 18-20 hour days in my internship and residency.  My wife and I both need our Mountian Dew/redbull/coffee in the morning or its a simple fact, we are going to bite your head off.  At the same time, both of us have been on some heavy narcotics post surgeries/injuries, and neither of us have any desire to take them after weeks on them post operatively. 

I'm dealing with a friend right now who injured his back pretty badly.  His insurance wouldn't cover the surgery he really needs, so over the course of a year and a half he's been loading himself with oxycodone and morphine to continue to work and make a living for his family.  His doctor cut him off of the morphine right before christmas for reasons I'm still not able to figure out---and he melted down nearly losing his job.  This is a good guy, a person I really like, but its one hell of rocky road trying to help him put his life back together---and in the end, it may cost a friendship, I'm just not sure where things are going to go yet. 

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2008, 03:50:45 AM »
You sure? First heard heroin, then Nubain. I am just going off BB heresay...

 I always heard heroin...don't know for sure.

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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2008, 11:56:33 AM »
I always heard heroin...don't know for sure.

You guys are probably right. By the time the info went from Boston to Cali, the story changed a few hundred times with less details. You know BB's are not the best at gossip  ;D

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2008, 11:56:07 AM »
I lurk around some of the message boards because it absolutely amazes me the different things and the amounts of those things a "normal" person will inject into themselves.   I say normal because some of the "bodybuilding" heaviest drug users I've seen really aren't that big either relative to the shit they are injecting into themselves.  Humans by and large are lazy and want the short way to quick rewards.   

Its also amazing to me how different people get hooked on different drugs---and some of them are much much easier for them than others.   Narcotic and methamphetamine addiction are, in my opinion, two of the hardest to deal with other than maybe cigarettes and caffiene.  My technician is a smoker who I'll swear would cut her foot off rather than give up her cigarettes.  She started smoking heavy after her divorce, is medically trained and knows the health risks, and is going to keep smoking.  My grandmother smoked for 35 years, then one day just quit cold turkey.  Didn't have a cigarette until the day she died after that.  I'll freely admit nd joke about caffiene addiction---which comes directly as a result of forced 18-20 hour days in my internship and residency.  My wife and I both need our Mountian Dew/redbull/coffee in the morning or its a simple fact, we are going to bite your head off.  At the same time, both of us have been on some heavy narcotics post surgeries/injuries, and neither of us have any desire to take them after weeks on them post operatively. 

I'm dealing with a friend right now who injured his back pretty badly.  His insurance wouldn't cover the surgery he really needs, so over the course of a year and a half he's been loading himself with oxycodone and morphine to continue to work and make a living for his family.  His doctor cut him off of the morphine right before christmas for reasons I'm still not able to figure out---and he melted down nearly losing his job.  This is a good guy, a person I really like, but its one hell of rocky road trying to help him put his life back together---and in the end, it may cost a friendship, I'm just not sure where things are going to go yet. 


I tend to believe that people who get addicted to drugs have underlying issues, whether they be emotional or otherwise that steer them in that direction.

Trying to fill an emotional void through some other means is never good unless it's productive......like lifting, though even that can be abused.

The whole situation is sad....


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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2008, 01:20:58 PM »

I tend to believe that people who get addicted to drugs have underlying issues, whether they be emotional or otherwise that steer them in that direction.

Trying to fill an emotional void through some other means is never good unless it's productive......like lifting, though even that can be abused.

The whole situation is sad....


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i agree but we all have a "void" in some way IMO. it's the way we choose to fill it that makes or breaks you. some fill it with drugs, some with god, some with drinking, some with sports, some with sex, some with eating, some with working, some with lifting weights...etc.

i do think some people are wired wrong and have a strong pull to use mind altering drugs to try and escape lifes daily problems. many use drugs to get away from feeling lonely or stressed out.

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2008, 01:48:37 PM »
i agree but we all have a "void" in some way IMO. it's the way we choose to fill it that makes or breaks you. some fill it with drugs, some with god, some with drinking, some with sports, some with sex, some with eating, some with working, some with lifting weights...etc.

i do think some people are wired wrong and have a strong pull to use mind altering drugs to try and escape lifes daily problems. many use drugs to get away from feeling lonely or stressed out.

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I think we all have our highs and lows, but I wonder why some are able to be productive with their release while others turn straight to drugs?

Some of it is genetic, but alot of it is environmental as well.


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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2008, 04:40:55 AM »
i agree but we all have a "void" in some way IMO. it's the way we choose to fill it that makes or breaks you. some fill it with drugs, some with god, some with drinking, some with sports, some with sex, some with eating, some with working, some with lifting weights...etc.

i do think some people are wired wrong and have a strong pull to use mind altering drugs to try and escape lifes daily problems. many use drugs to get away from feeling lonely or stressed out.

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Nicely put.

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2008, 07:03:38 PM »

Just curious........

How many of you have tried Nubain and have some experience with it?

I'd like to hear your accounts.

Is it strong or overrated in terms of addiction?   ???



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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2008, 12:40:19 AM »
Yeah, I've tried it. Ordered some just for the hell of it when I saw it on a list and was ordering stuff anyway. Finally tried it one day. Shot it in a pin with some gear. I felt a strong, pleasant opiate buzz from only 10mg IM. Used it a few more times then never ordered more.

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2008, 07:53:58 AM »
commonly, who (outside of BBing) takes nubain?

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2008, 08:09:01 AM »
commonly, who (outside of BBing) takes nubain?

...people in pain...junkies...

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2008, 11:01:02 AM »
Nubain is very addictive, I shoot up IV about 8 times a day.  It is really hard to come off of.  Sometimes I wish I never started, but then when I am off I miss not having emotions.  It costs me about 1000 a month, but without it now I would go insane.  Dont touch it kids, it will get ahold of you before you would even know it.

Hey dudes, I just thought I would give an update of this stuff.  I have clean off for about a month.  What a difference, I actually feel alive.  I thought nubain was getting my life easier, but I was way wrong.  It made everything worse.  Coming off was very tough and adjusting to reality was not easy about a 7 day clean out period.  But all of a sudden I started to grow like a weed.  I think nubain held me back in the gym.  My head is clear and life is so much better, I actually care about things now......My girlfriend never knew I was using, but all of a sudden she tells me I'm acting so much more awake and talkative. 
I still think about it when I have some physical pain and some emotional issues, but I just deal with it instead of shoot up.  I was putting 6 syringes in my sock at work and go to the bathroom every two hours to have a fix.  I was even going through a box of slin pins a week, my veins were scarred up.  I was a mess. 
I just thought I would give an update and tell everyone to stay away from it, you might make it your life without even knowing it.

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2008, 11:06:54 AM »
Hey dudes, I just thought I would give an update of this stuff.  I have clean off for about a month.  What a difference, I actually feel alive.  I thought nubain was getting my life easier, but I was way wrong.  It made everything worse.  Coming off was very tough and adjusting to reality was not easy about a 7 day clean out period.  But all of a sudden I started to grow like a weed.  I think nubain held me back in the gym.  My head is clear and life is so much better, I actually care about things now......My girlfriend never knew I was using, but all of a sudden she tells me I'm acting so much more awake and talkative. 
I still think about it when I have some physical pain and some emotional issues, but I just deal with it instead of shoot up.  I was putting 6 syringes in my sock at work and go to the bathroom every two hours to have a fix.  I was even going through a box of slin pins a week, my veins were scarred up.  I was a mess. 
I just thought I would give an update and tell everyone to stay away from it, you might make it your life without even knowing it.

You were shooting Nubain IV?

Don't you realize how bad that is for your veins?

Why didn't you just shoot IM or subcutaneously?

People like you, with addictive personality traits should stay away from all substances.



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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2008, 01:32:09 PM »
Has anyone ever even used nubain here

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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2008, 06:41:44 PM »
I used it back in 1996-2001 off and on.  It didn't dull pain, like a vic or perc, but it gave you a rreal warm feeling.  I could do cardio for hours on it though.  Never went above 60 units at most spaced out through the day.  (20 uits, 3 times a day).  When it was gone, it was gone.  No terrible withdrawls or night sweats.  Traing was GREAT on it, 10-15 units of 'bain with Ripped Fuel (old school) made training great. 

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« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2008, 09:08:46 AM »
You sure? First heard heroin, then Nubain. I am just going off BB heresay...

actually it was an oxycontin od mixed with h

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2008, 09:12:26 AM »
Has anyone ever even used nubain here

i have held it in my hand about to but never did. I will stick to a pill thanks. I have a legit script and have dealt with withdrawl and opiates for years. Its tough but controlable if your strong enough. Just have to educate yourself on how to curve the withdrawls when its time to clean out. I can make the worst wd you can imagine, completley tolerable for just about anyone. I have gotten many huge addicts off as well. Then again i seen people who take 1-2 a day for a month and get hooked and cant get off even that dose. Everyones different. They should ban them all together. You know the government has the ability to make a pain killer that doesnt induce withdrawl, but wouldnt be alot of money in that would there?

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2008, 09:40:10 PM »
I used it back in 1996-2001 off and on.  It didn't dull pain, like a vic or perc, but it gave you a rreal warm feeling.  I could do cardio for hours on it though.  Never went above 60 units at most spaced out through the day.  (20 uits, 3 times a day).  When it was gone, it was gone.  No terrible withdrawls or night sweats.  Traing was GREAT on it, 10-15 units of 'bain with Ripped Fuel (old school) made training great. 

Michael,

Why did you stop using Nubain?

What changed?


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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2008, 10:20:38 AM »
You were shooting Nubain IV?

Don't you realize how bad that is for your veins?

Why didn't you just shoot IM or subcutaneously?

People like you, with addictive personality traits should stay away from all substances.



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Yes IV, I did it that way because you could feel it faster and the affects better.  Yes I do know what it does to my veins and obviously didn't care.  I obviosly I know now to stay away from the nubs  :)

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2008, 12:27:28 PM »
Yes IV, I did it that way because you could feel it faster and the affects better.  Yes I do know what it does to my veins and obviously didn't care.  I obviosly I know now to stay away from the nubs  :)

I'm glad to see you cleaned up. i've had several close friends and family members deal with addiction problems so i know how tough it can be.

Take care.

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Re: Nubain and Bodybuilders...
« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2008, 07:54:31 AM »
Have you ever seen someone on Nubain? The guy I fired would be so out of it, stubbling, incoherent, etc. so it obvoiusly fucked him up like herion!

He was a big boy too and was always on gear as well, never lost his size.

I do not think it is an epidemic as it was back in the 90's. That Mark Kerr special is quite old as well, early 2000 or late '90's I believe.

Even at 20 units 4 times a day, I WAS noever like a zombie or out of it.  The feeling you get on Nubain is like taking Vics or Percs.  I was able to do cardio all day on Nubain.  when it was gone, it was gone.  There was a time when I used quite a bit when I was dieting.  I spent more on Nubain than juice when I did the USA in 98.  Again, it helped me with the dieting.  Didn't totally kill the hunger, but helped a little.