The Trojan Horse of the Russians.

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Bored lately. I came across this on abovetopsecret.com. It reminds me of what Bezmenov is saying in that documentary. There is also another Soviet defector that wrote two books on the Subversion of the West links down below. Alot of reading material!

Interesting stuff. enjoy 

Did they win the cold war, someway did they win?

I know it seems like a silly question and the answer seems obvious, but here we are 15 years later and communisum is on the rise.

We are busy looking for Islamaphaists, and Communisum is comming back bigger than ever.

Did they somehow trick us and win when we thought the war was over?

Here are my thoughts from a recent thoughts on this subject. Just some thoughts I was mulling over that I decided to share.
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I have been watching everyone tricked out and spying on each other, like good little Stasi citizens and it has me wondering, did the Russians really lose or did they pull a fast one on those lazy, assuming Westerners?

I mean here we are 15 to 16 years later and we are being tricked out and played as much as the German citizens were.

Everyone is busy spying and snitching on each others, people are learning that they can't trust those around them, and people's love is growing cold.

People are doing things they would have dreaded 20 years earlier. While our attention in the West shifted to Islamaphashist or whatever the distraction of the day is, communism has been making a comeback, in fact it's making a killing.

This got me to thinking and wondering. I mean is there anyway that they pretended to lose the cold battle, so that they could win the Cold War?

Think about it, it's the oldest trick in the book. Long war, it's wasting resources, no one is winning. You pretend to lose the war, pack up your ship, or break down your walls, and then send a gift to your enemies, make them drunk lazy, let down their guards and then, you slip in when they are sleeping and boom you have conquered Troy.

Well did the Russians or Communism conquer the West. Well let's see, they offered us Peace, Paastroka. They packed up their ships, or they let down the wall, and pretended that Communism was dead and fully gone, and that we had conquered them with our democratic society.

Then they had all their agents slip quietly and stealthily into our shores, and while we slept, somehow their system slowly took over.

Maybe a bit simplistic in the comparison, but it's something to think about when you think about the spy society that we have become. We have systems in place that we would have been shocked at 20 years ago. We also have in some Countries, former Stasi Chiefs, and KGB heads, handling the countries homeland security.

Our children, parents, brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, are all spying, and betraying others. Many in society live in fear of discussing this stuff. Young ones are learning to speak in whispers and hushed tones.

Spies and looks outs at every corner, and people do not know who they can trust or what they can trust. Government is doing scarier things to people than the mafia ever did. The mafia if it exists at all anymore, are probably so over run with agents inside, they won't know what hit them when their organisation runs into trouble.

The rest of use are here trying to make sense of it all, and I think maybe they won after all either intentionally or by default they won. We have become what we always afraid of becoming. I think sometimes the horror that they lived in must have left a deep morphic resonance in the human conscience, something that had to be experienced by others to be understood, and I think that they imparted that experience on the human conscience so that the rest of us could understand the horrors they saw and experienced under that system. Somehow it's become our own, a living breathing spymare that no one can wake up from.

I wonder what happened to the generation that was so afraid of becoming Red. How short human memory is. How changeable they are sometimes, what would have shocked and horrified a generation ago, has become perfectly acceptable and trendy. We have our children tricked out and whored spies and ears of society. Hard to believe sometimes that it has come to this and so quickly. Slow, slithering and insidious, like a sleepless malice, it crept in while we slumbered and wrapped it's coils around humanity, and now it squeezes slowly, killing us as we try to loosen ourselves from it's grasps, each time we breath and convince ourselves we are close to becoming free, it tightens it's hold, till we it's human prey will become no more. Then it will open up it's hingeless jaw and devour all humanity.

http://www.abovepolitics.com/forum/thread272005/pg1



Golitsyn - New Lies for Old - The Communist Strategy of Deception and Disinformation (1984)

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1272442

This is Anatoliy Golitsyn's shocking book New Lies for Old - The Communist Strategy of Deception and Disinformation (1984) where a top-ranking KGB defector reveals the long-term gameplan and disinformation campaign for the now "dead" Soviet Union and the international socialist revolution as a whole. The author worked in the strategic planning department of the KGB in the rank of Major. In 1961 under the name "Anatole Klimov" he was assigned to the Soviet embassy in Helsinki where he defected to the CIA and was interviewed there by counter-intelligence director James Angleton. Golitsyn provided priceless information about many famous Soviet agents including Kim Philby, Donald Duart Maclean, Guy Burgess, John Vassall, double agent Aleksandr Kopatzky and many others. It was only with his defection that Philby was confirmed as a Soviet mole. But his vast knowledge included not only names but the overall strategy of deception that the communists planned decades ahead. In New Lies For Old he successfully predicted the collapse of the communist bloc years before it actually happened and warned about a long-term deception strategy designed to lull the West into a false sense of security and finally economically cripple and diplomatically isolate the United States. As he writes, the 'liberalization' in the Soviet Union would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the communist party's role and its monopoly would be apparently curtailed. If liberalization should be extended to East Germany, demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated (and it did fell). The European Parliament might become an all-European socialist parliament with representation from the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. 'Europe from the Atlantic to the Urals' would turn out to be a neutral and socialist Europe. Was KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn right? Do the communists have a long range strategy to destroy the west, implemented in the 1960 time frame and extending over 40 years? Analysts have pointed out that he had an incredibly high degree of accuracy in his predictions. Golitsyn makes a strong case, based on his personal experience in the KGB and the history of the USSR. Furthermore his predictions have largely come true, if anything he was even too conservative. At any rate, if Golitsyn was right long-term, the strategy ought to be coming together real soon, the point of which is to isolate and defeat America with a united communist front. As New Lies for Old reveals, the new gameplan for the collectivists and their New World Order is Fabianism which works gradually inch-by-inch at advancing international socialism and working towards the leviathan of total(itarian) world government. Find out in detail how it will be implemented. 400 pages. A must read for everyone.

Golitsyn - The Perestroika Deception - The World's Slide Towards the Second October Revolution (1995)

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1272424

This is Anatoliy Golitsyn's shocking book The Perestroika Deception - The World's Slide Towards the Second October Revolution (1995) which thoroughly exposes the strategy behind fake fall of communism all around the world with all consequences included. The author is the highest ranking defector from former Soviet Union as he worked inside the system, inside the very heart of KGB. His first book, New Lies for Old, caused a long-running sensation when it was discovered that, unlike most Western analysts, the author had accurately predicted, some years ahead of the events, the 'Break with the Past' which took place in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union in 1989-91. Mark Riebling, who carried out a methodical analysis of Golitsyn's predictions in 'New Lies for Old', credited him with 'an accuracy record of nearly 94%'. He predicted what later has become reality - Russia clearly staged the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe,  the KGB financed all so called dissidents that run the Eastern European governments. Golitsyn has analized the strategic communist plan in detail and yet western governments are not listening and the so called media is not paying attention to this threat from Russia and China. Communist world domination will become horrible reality if we will not reasses Russia's military strength and the real intentions KGB lieutenant colonel Vladimir Putin and his communist Politburo have for America - destruction of her and instalation of the communist World Order around the globe. Golitsyn clearly states in this briliant analysis that the deceptive means of false friendship Russia is playing today will only result in catastrofic consequences for America if it doesn't protect herself. In this disturbing and insightful work, KGB insider Anatoly Golitsyn displays his truly incredible encyclopedic knowledge of Soviet strategy and the planned fate of the West. The Perestroika Deception explains in grizzly detail the devious secret intent behind the Leninist strategy which the 'former' Communists are pursuing under cover of fake 'reform' and 'progress towards democracy'. The immediate strategic objective is 'convergence' with the West - on their terms offcourse. The ultimate objective is that of Lenin: replacement of nation states with collective regional governments as building blocks of the 'New World Social Order' (World Communist Government). Find out how the trick really works. 260 pages. A must read for everyone.

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Vladimir Bukovsky, a former Soviet Union Gulag prisoner, revealed in this speech, confidential documents from secret Soviet files which he was allowed to read in 1992. These documents confirmed the existence of a "conspiracy" to turn the European Union into a socialist organization.

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[Nordic Superman]

You ever been to Russia?

This is all nonsense.

[Bindare_Dundat]

You ever been to Russia?

This is all nonsense.

I've never been to Russia, can you explain the difference?

[Nordic Superman]

I've been to Russia on numerous occasions, Moscow and Saint Petersburg are just like any other EU city, democratic, young hip professionals.

I've also been to the areas North of the Caucus Mountains, even here, in deep Russia people are in capitalism swing, and there wasn't a person I talked to (politically) that wasn't in favour of democracy. Sure, they might sway to a socialistic democracy, but what EU country doesn't?

There's no foundation for a  Russian/EU socialistic conspiracy theory other than the absurd.

You can take my word for it (someone who has visited many parts of Russia) or someone who claims expertise by researching on the internet.

[MB_722]

You can take my word for it (someone who has visited many parts of Russia) or someone who claims expertise by researching on the internet.

LOL

yes Ive been there a few times

[Nordic Superman]

LOL

yes Ive been there a few times

Post collapse of the Soviet Union?

Do you believe Communism is making a come-back in Russia?