STARTING SOON BUT NEED A LITTLE ADVICE

[TSPARK]

About to start up but would like some solid advice. WEIGHT: 230LBS  BF%: 17  TRAINING: 10YRS+  EXPERIENCE: 6 CYCLES

Fairly solid diet but want to cut down to 200lbs. Cardio is done 5 day week for 30 min consisting of running, cycling, walking after weight training.
Enough of that. Here is the question. I have enough to do a couple of runs (test, tren, mast, v, deca, t3). Have used all in the past but want to lean out .
 Here is my plan. WK 1-3  TEST @ 550mg, V @ 200mg, Deca @ 275mg
                        WK 4-7  TEST @ 850mg, V @ 250mg, Deca @ 400mg
                        WK 8-9  TEST @ 1000mg, V @ 300mg, Deca @ 500mg
                        WK 10-12 TEST @ 750mg, V@ 250mg, Deca @ 325mg
                        WK 13-14 TEST @ 400mg, V@ 150mg, Deca @ 200mg
                        WK 15-16 TEST @ 200MG, V @ 150mg
 

[candidizzle]

 switch up your cardio.   no running, jogging,..just walking. do it first thing in the morning before you eat, OR, at night before your last meal.   i wouldnt suggest doing cardio post workout. cortisol levels are raised at that time. although many body builders have done it that way wit succes...my motto= better safe than sorry


these guys will help you out with the stuff regarding your cycle

[TSPARK]

I TRAIN @ 5AM SO IT IS HARD FOR ME TO BREAK IT UP. I WISH I COULD. WOULD IT HELP TO GET AROUD 20 TO 30 GM OF PROTIEN BEFORE OR SHOULD I JUST STICK TO TRAINING ON AN EMPTY STOMACH??

[candidizzle]

oh fuck man..  yes you should definitely drink some protein and some carbohydrates before training.

try to get insulin elevated and aminos present in the blood stream while training.   

[Slintowin4424]

About to start up but would like some solid advice. WEIGHT: 230LBS  BF%: 17  TRAINING: 10YRS+  EXPERIENCE: 6 CYCLES

Fairly solid diet but want to cut down to 200lbs. Cardio is done 5 day week for 30 min consisting of running, cycling, walking after weight training.
Enough of that. Here is the question. I have enough to do a couple of runs (test, tren, mast, v, deca, t3). Have used all in the past but want to lean out .
 Here is my plan. WK 1-3  TEST @ 550mg, V @ 200mg, Deca @ 275mg
                        WK 4-7  TEST @ 850mg, V @ 250mg, Deca @ 400mg
                        WK 8-9  TEST @ 1000mg, V @ 300mg, Deca @ 500mg
                        WK 10-12 TEST @ 750mg, V@ 250mg, Deca @ 325mg
                        WK 13-14 TEST @ 400mg, V@ 150mg, Deca @ 200mg
                        WK 15-16 TEST @ 200MG, V @ 150mg
 

Are you bulking and how is your diet whats a typical day look like for you

[candidizzle]

I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT THAT CYCLE UNTILL NOW...WHATS IS MEANT BY "V" ?

[TSPARK]

PROTEIN: 250 grams per day (turkey, fish, chicken, beef, mrp 2 per day)
CARBS: 200 grams per day (oatmeal, brown rice, black beans, veggies)
Fat: 75 grams  per day ( mct oil )
MEALS: 5 to 6 per day

WINSTROL: V

[Arnold jr]

wk 1-16 test 750mg/wk
wk 1-12 deca 400mg/wk
wk 1-5 winny 50mg/ed
wk 6-16 winny 100mg/ed
wk 1-16 arimidex or letrozol 1mg/ed

Cardio, do it after you lift but always eat before you lift. If 30min of cardio 5x/wk is enough then great, but don't get stuck in the mind set that this is all you're going to do...it may end up where you need to bump this up to reach your goal.

Like candy said, stop the running...low intensity cardio is best for fat burning. Now if you're an athlete that plays competitive sports, then obviously this cannot be the case...in this case you have to run.

Diet: Don't stick with 200g carbs every day, there is a chance, a good chance you will stagnate doing that. Do one of two things; start cycling your carbs or take your carb intake even lower and eat more fats.

[TSPARK]

THANKS! WILL CUT BACK ON THE RUNNING TO ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS. FATS FROM 75 GM PER DAY TO 125 GMS AND DROP CARBS TO 100 TO 150 PER DAY. WANT TO ADD A LITTLE SIZE BUT MAIN GOAL IS TO GET BF% DOWN TO ABOUT 10%.

THE TEST @ 750 PER WK 1-16 DO I NOT NEED TO TAPER DOWN?
T3  FOR 7 WEEKS STARTING @ 25MCG, PEAK @ 100MCG (WK 4), WORKING BACK DOWN TO 25MCG (WK 7) SHOULD HELP.

[4thAD]

THANKS! WILL CUT BACK ON THE RUNNING TO ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS. FATS FROM 75 GM PER DAY TO 125 GMS AND DROP CARBS TO 100 TO 150 PER DAY. WANT TO ADD A LITTLE SIZE BUT MAIN GOAL IS TO GET BF% DOWN TO ABOUT 10%.

THE TEST @ 750 PER WK 1-16 DO I NOT NEED TO TAPER DOWN?
T3  FOR 7 WEEKS STARTING @ 25MCG, PEAK @ 100MCG (WK 4), WORKING BACK DOWN TO 25MCG (WK 7) SHOULD HELP.

Hey bro! Hey man AJ is correct and the cycle he lined out for you looks very solid. No need IMHO to taper the doses up or down. 750mg test ew for 16 weeks will do the trick. One thing I might add that I personally have been experimenting with is the use of provirion. Since I have been using provirion I have had no need for the use of adex on low dose test. I am very gyno prone in recent cycles and even with trt doses I had the need for adex. Provirion keeps me dry and vascular, and keeps my sex drive up up up, even with the HG nandrolone. The shit is ultra cheap as far as AAS go, so it is so worth it as far as I am concerned. Provirion can be run @ doses as low as 25mg ed up to 100mg ed. I run 25mg ed with low dose test. I would think you could lower the adex dose in combination with the provirion and get better gains from the cycle. For me @ 1mg adex ew my bones are sort of achy, and I am truly starting to believe it can hinder gains.

[TSPARK]

WILL HAVE TO READ UP ON THE PROVIRION. IN THE PAST I USED ADEX @ 25MG EOD OR EVERY 3RD DAY AND HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH GYNO. WITHOUT IT I WOULD THOUGH. THANKS

[candidizzle]

wk 1-16 test 750mg/wk
wk 1-12 deca 400mg/wk
wk 1-5 winny 50mg/ed
wk 6-16 winny 100mg/edwk 1-16 arimidex or letrozol 1mg/ed

could you please explain to me your reason for doing it this way

[4thAD]

WILL HAVE TO READ UP ON THE PROVIRION. IN THE PAST I USED ADEX @ 25MG EOD OR EVERY 3RD DAY AND HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH GYNO. WITHOUT IT I WOULD THOUGH. THANKS

I have always used 1mg ed adex in the past. I will drop that dose way down with the use of provirion in the future. Its a mild androgen, and it is not liver toxic. Can be used for long term.

[TSPARK]

4THAD  
   OK A LITTLE SLIP ON MY END. SO YOU THINK I SHOULD THROW IN A LITTLE MAST IN THE MIX?? I HAVE A BIT OF MAST E @ 200MG PER ML.

[candidizzle]

4THAD  
   OK A LITTLE SLIP ON MY END. SO YOU THINK I SHOULD THROW IN A LITTLE MAST IN THE MIX?? I HAVE A BIT OF MAST E @ 200MG PER ML.

proviron, not masteron.

they call proviron, "oral masteron", so i know why you thinking that..

but they are different bro

[4thAD]

4THAD 
   OK A LITTLE SLIP ON MY END. SO YOU THINK I SHOULD THROW IN A LITTLE MAST IN THE MIX?? I HAVE A BIT OF MAST E @ 200MG PER ML.

I have never used Masteron bro so I cant really comment on that. Provirion is a wonder drug as far as I'm concerned.

[Arnold jr]

THANKS! WILL CUT BACK ON THE RUNNING TO ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS. FATS FROM 75 GM PER DAY TO 125 GMS AND DROP CARBS TO 100 TO 150 PER DAY. WANT TO ADD A LITTLE SIZE BUT MAIN GOAL IS TO GET BF% DOWN TO ABOUT 10%.

THE TEST @ 750 PER WK 1-16 DO I NOT NEED TO TAPER DOWN?
T3  FOR 7 WEEKS STARTING @ 25MCG, PEAK @ 100MCG (WK 4), WORKING BACK DOWN TO 25MCG (WK 7) SHOULD HELP.

Taper the t-3 up but no need to tapper it down IMO. Once you're done with the t-3, simply run it for 1-2 more wks at 25mcg/ed then stop.

could you please explain to me your reason for doing it this way

The original way he had the winny listed....it was just a lot of winny for a very long time....it was over kill IMO and simply not needed.

The way I laid it out, it still let him use winny the whole time with a little bump for added umph after the first part of the cycle.

There was no "magical" reason for the way i laid it out.

[candidizzle]

Taper the t-3 up but no need to tapper it down IMO. Once you're done with the t-3, simply run it for 1-2 more wks at 25mcg/ed then stop.
The original way he had the winny listed....it was just a lot of winny for a very long time....it was over kill IMO and simply not needed.

The way I laid it out, it still let him use winny the whole time with a little bump for added umph after the first part of the cycle.

There was no "magical" reason for the way i laid it out.

oh ok cool thanks for the answer

i didnt think it was magical, lol,  i just didnt understand it fully and i knew you had a method to your madness

[Arnold jr]

oh ok cool thanks for the answer

i didnt think it was magical, lol,  i just didnt understand it fully and i knew you had a method to your madness

Well madness...yes. Ask anyone around here where I am and they'll probably tell you that I lost my mind a long, long time ago.

I traded it in for a tiny bit of muscle and a shriveled up nut sack...good investment IMO!

[Luv2Hurt]

Well madness...yes. Ask anyone around here where I am and they'll probably tell you that I lost my mind a long, long time ago.

I traded it in for a tiny bit of muscle and a shriveled up nut sack...good investment IMO!

LOL