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What would Martin Luther King Say...
« on: June 17, 2008, 12:23:11 PM »
I've been saying the same thing for the past 6 months...

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 12:24:57 PM »
I've been saying the same thing for the past 6 months...

What?  That 'Obama is the first black candidate'?

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 12:44:26 PM »
What?  That 'Obama is the first black candidate'?
Actually, he's not the first "black" candidate.  OBama is no more black than Tiger Woods or Mariah Carey.  I was labeled a racist for saying that, but it is what it is.  To say that OBama is black is to deny one half of his heritage (his mom).  That's how I would see it with my own children.

With respect to the cartoon, I've been debating with people who are voting for Obama simply because he's the first "black" candidate.  Please don't tell me that you actually believe that the record number of newly registered black voters is reflective of the issues that Obama believes in?  :o ???

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 12:48:05 PM »
Actually, he's not the first "black" candidate.  OBama is no more black than Tiger Woods or Mariah Carey.  I was labeled a racist for saying that, but it is what it is.  To say that OBama is black is to deny one half of his heritage (his mom).  That's how I would see it with my own children.

With respect to the cartoon, I've been debating with people who are voting for Obama simply because he's the first "black" candidate.  Please don't tell me that you actually believe that the record number of newly registered black voters is reflective of the issues that Obama believes in?  :o ???

What?  You're saying Obama is not a "black" man? 



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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 12:50:54 PM »



Heck, we have a Halfrican American who is on the verge of being elected president. 

Aren't you voting for the Halfrican American for president? 

I'm familiar with a country that allowed an immigrant African to move here, create a halfrican, have that kid educated

Will you be voting for a Halfrican American for president in November,

the fact he is a Halfrican American hasn't hurt him at all.   

I find it interesting that some now want to make an issue of Obama being a Halfrican American,


or...


I've previously called him Halfrican

Too many bigots in this country for a Halfrican American to get elected president. 

I heard Olbermann talking about the "Halfrican American"

I hope I didn't offend our Halfrican American candidate for president. 

I interact with more "Halfrican Americans" than you


still more...


when was the last time you were in a room full of Halfrican Americans? 

and...

No way a Halfrican American wins in 08.

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 01:01:05 PM »
I would respond to this, but I don't want to get shot.   :-\



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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 01:05:19 PM »
What?  You're saying Obama is not a "black" man? 



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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 01:09:18 PM »
I would respond to this, but I don't want to get shot.   :-\



Oh SHHHNAP!!!!  :o

LOL!!!!  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

you're so wrong for that, Beach.   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 01:11:47 PM »
Oh SHHHNAP!!!!  :o

LOL!!!!  HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

you're so wrong for that, Beach.   :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

 ;D  I can't take credit for that.  Nordic did it.  I'm just cutting and pasting.  But it is one of the funniest things I've seen on getbig.   :D

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 01:25:56 PM »
Hey, we both have our positions.  You're a closet racist, I'm a gun toting jerk.

I wouldn't trade places with you for anything.  You're scared to disagree with whoever's in charge.  You excuse a police state every chance you get.  You refuse to accept obvious evidence. And you're obsessed with race and gay issues.

You keep that mess.  I don't think anyone here would want that baggage.


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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 01:30:12 PM »
Actually, he's not the first "black" candidate.  OBama is no more black than Tiger Woods or Mariah Carey.  I was labeled a racist for saying that, but it is what it is.  To say that OBama is black is to deny one half of his heritage (his mom).  That's how I would see it with my own children.

With respect to the cartoon, I've been debating with people who are voting for Obama simply because he's the first "black" candidate.  Please don't tell me that you actually believe that the record number of newly registered black voters is reflective of the issues that Obama believes in?  :o ???
Let's see....Afro, dark skin, big lips....he's black alright.  He ain't passing, that's for sure.

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 01:57:38 PM »
Let's see....Afro, dark skin, big lips....he's black alright.  He ain't passing, that's for sure.
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soooooooo, what category would Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Corbin Bleu, and the like fit under?   ??? ??? ??? They are all just like Barack Obama! 

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 02:07:58 PM »
In ref to the cartoon, of course Dr King would have supported Obama for reason not to do with race, and one can only assume anyone who feels otherwise is not familiar with the words and teachings of Dr. King.

Apart from McCain's use of racist slurs, admitted hatred of people and history of adultery that we can assume a man like King would overlook, there would be 2 main issues.

Nonviolence was a huge premise of his, he strongly opposed the Vietnam War, and other aspects of US foreign policy that are far more closely aligned with the singer of "bomb bomb bomb Iran". That alone would have put him with Obama as far as his stance on Iraq.

A quote of his I always liked: "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death". He spoke on that issue many times, in great detail. He would be closely aligned with Obama on that.

His work for the civil rights struggle overshadows all his other work, most of which inherently ties in with Obama's platform - antiwar, less gov spending on wars and more on people.


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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008, 10:11:22 PM »
Martin Luther King hmmmm.   A person who believed in non-violent change?

Would he have supported McBush?   

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2008, 10:19:40 PM »
Actually, he's not the first "black" candidate.  OBama is no more black than Tiger Woods or Mariah Carey.  I was labeled a racist for saying that, but it is what it is.  To say that OBama is black is to deny one half of his heritage (his mom).  That's how I would see it with my own children.

With respect to the cartoon, I've been debating with people who are voting for Obama simply because he's the first "black" candidate.  Please don't tell me that you actually believe that the record number of newly registered black voters is reflective of the issues that Obama believes in?  :o ???

Why not? The record number of previously registered Republican voters who will be pulling that lever for him in November is reflective of the issues that Obama believes in, why can't Black Americans feel the same way. Are you saying that Blacks and Republicans can't believe in the same thing? Now who is being racist?   MLK's message is a good one, and needs to be heard by many, ...especially those who agree with Obama on the issues, detest the BushMccain policies, but just can't seem to bring themselves to vote for a Black man. they would rather choose a man who has demonstrated his willingness to break God's laws, as well as man's, use his influence to hijack justice, allow his wife to live as an addict for 3 years without flinching etc., etc., ...but he'd be a better president because he's white?  ::)  Newly registered Black voters doesn't necessarily mean they're all voting for Obama. I'm sure men like Keyes will be voting for BushMcCain. what we have is a pivotal election... one where America finds herself on the precipice. Whoever is elected will either bring her back from the edge of ruin (Obama) or take her over the cliff once and for all (Bush McCain)

Newly registered first time voters are an awakened electorate keen to take part in the democratic process as respionsible citizens of America. This is simply democracy in action, ...people uniting in a common cause.
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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 10:25:30 PM »
Martin Luther King hmmmm.   A person who believed in non-violent change?

Would he have supported McBush?   
oh yea, he would vote McBush :D  Because he would see the truth in the neocon message that Obama is a Halfrican, not black, not white.  He would buy into Colossus and BB's racist stereotype of Obama meant to bubble up racist feelings about Obama from both sides...  Ding Ding Ding...  :)

Sorry Colossus and BB... We see right through your BS on this.

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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 10:28:23 PM »
In ref to the cartoon, of course Dr King would have supported Obama for reason not to do with race, and one can only assume anyone who feels otherwise is not familiar with the words and teachings of Dr. King.

Apart from McCain's use of racist slurs, admitted hatred of people and history of adultery that we can assume a man like King would overlook, there would be 2 main issues.

Nonviolence was a huge premise of his, he strongly opposed the Vietnam War, and other aspects of US foreign policy that are far more closely aligned with the singer of "bomb bomb bomb Iran". That alone would have put him with Obama as far as his stance on Iraq.

A quote of his I always liked: "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death". He spoke on that issue many times, in great detail. He would be closely aligned with Obama on that.

His work for the civil rights struggle overshadows all his other work, most of which inherently ties in with Obama's platform - antiwar, less gov spending on wars and more on people.


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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 06:34:24 AM »
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soooooooo, what category would Mariah Carey, Halle Berry, Corbin Bleu, and the like fit under?   ??? ??? ??? They are all just like Barack Obama! 

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I didn't know they were running for president.  I must keep on top of these things.

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2008, 10:13:04 AM »
You're a closet racist, I'm a gun toting jerk.

Now thats what I call Fair and Balanced.

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2008, 07:51:47 PM »
Now thats what I call Fair and Balanced.

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2008, 08:37:08 PM »
I didn't know they were running for president.  I must keep on top of these things.
Nevermind, bro.  Either you missed my point or don't really care to understand what I'm saying.  It's all good. 
In ref to the cartoon, of course Dr King would have supported Obama for reason not to do with race, and one can only assume anyone who feels otherwise is not familiar with the words and teachings of Dr. King.

Apart from McCain's use of racist slurs, admitted hatred of people and history of adultery that we can assume a man like King would overlook, there would be 2 main issues.

Nonviolence was a huge premise of his, he strongly opposed the Vietnam War, and other aspects of US foreign policy that are far more closely aligned with the singer of "bomb bomb bomb Iran". That alone would have put him with Obama as far as his stance on Iraq.

A quote of his I always liked: "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death". He spoke on that issue many times, in great detail. He would be closely aligned with Obama on that.

His work for the civil rights struggle overshadows all his other work, most of which inherently ties in with Obama's platform - antiwar, less gov spending on wars and more on people.
I understand the point you're making, CQ.  And I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

Being that Dr. King, Jr. was an excellent example of anti-violence, he never went to the lengths with which we see today from those who oppose the war.  Though he opposed the Vietnam war, he certainly didn't publicly desecrate the good name of the soldiers who were in that battle like we see today even amongst the media, i.e., he wouldn't be comparing our soldiers or our president with the likes of Hitler or Stalin.   He definitely wasn't standing with tie-dyed shirt wearing, pot-smoking, "if it feels good do it" or "make love, not war" sign-holding citizens. 

It's funny that you mentioned the quote from Dr. King, Jr.  the social programs he fought for are FAR MORE DIFFERENT than the issues that the much beloved Sen. Obama fights for today.  The people Sen. Obama wants to "fight" for are organizations like Planned Parenthood.  Are you saying Dr. King, Jr. would have admonished the fight against putting an end to abortions?   He wouldn't be outraged at what is closing in on 50 MILLION abortions?  You're telling me that Dr. Martin Luther King would have been behind the so-called "civil-rights" of homosexuals just as he was for blacks who were once thought not even to be fully human?  And the government spending that Dr. King, Jr. would have been a strong advocate for are the very faith-based programs that liberals despise so much.  He wouldn't have fought to continue with federally-funded art programs where the exhibits display a painting of Christ Jesus covered with cow crap all over His body.  Nor would he be an advocate for seeing an aborted baby (or what some like to refer to as a "fetus" as if that makes the heartbeat that can be seen as early as 6-8 weeks less of a human being) in a jar of fluid where that's supposed to be art.  Those who will vote for Barack Obama would not have wanted anything to do with Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

All that being said, the uproar about Barack Obama is more about the fact that we could have our first "black" president.  To hell with the issues.  That's the point I'm making about the cartoon.  The things Obama advocates now are NOT the issues Dr. King would be fighting for.  But if you do want to make it about the issues, I think it's fair to say that Barack Obama represents the time that most of his liberal-minded followers want to get back to, which would be the Woodstock days...A time that I believe to be the beginning of our moral demise as a country.   

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Re: What would Martin Luther King Say...
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2008, 08:45:40 PM »
Why not? The record number of previously registered Republican voters who will be pulling that lever for him in November is reflective of the issues that Obama believes in, why can't Black Americans feel the same way. Are you saying that Blacks and Republicans can't believe in the same thing? Now who is being racist?   MLK's message is a good one, and needs to be heard by many, ...especially those who agree with Obama on the issues, detest the BushMccain policies, but just can't seem to bring themselves to vote for a Black man. they would rather choose a man who has demonstrated his willingness to break God's laws, as well as man's, use his influence to hijack justice, allow his wife to live as an addict for 3 years without flinching etc., etc., ...but he'd be a better president because he's white?  ::)  Newly registered Black voters doesn't necessarily mean they're all voting for Obama. I'm sure men like Keyes will be voting for BushMcCain. what we have is a pivotal election... one where America finds herself on the precipice. Whoever is elected will either bring her back from the edge of ruin (Obama) or take her over the cliff once and for all (Bush McCain)

Newly registered first time voters are an awakened electorate keen to take part in the democratic process as respionsible citizens of America. This is simply democracy in action, ...people uniting in a common cause.

YOU GO GIRL!!!   
(that's what I should have said) How you remain so calm in the face of such {I can't even type it} is beyond me.
I'm gonna sit back and let you carry the baton for a few laps around the track. You're good at it!  :D
bi-polar moments, possibly?   :-\   ???   :-\

Jag, there are great meds available and wonderful professionals to help you.  I've even heard that the couches that you lay on are pretty nice.