Author Topic: 300 mg/mL Test E (Read 9077 times)

Overload · « **Reply #25 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:02:52 PM »

Quote from: dustin on July 22, 2008, 10:37:34 AM

Just tell your wife that you're getting blood work and all that. If you don't pin very often, it can honestly feel like you're not even on the sauce. I started pinning EOD with test e and/or sust250 and THEN I felt like I was on shit again. It really does make a world of difference.

I'm actually pretty pissed that I ran the sauce twice without doing this. I'm actually going to switch to shorter esters. It also makes PCT a heck of a lot easier. I know it can be a pain to pin all the time, pulling out your gear, swabbing your shit down, etc... but load a couple barrels ahead of time. I only load a few shots worth because I don't like an entire cycle loaded and stored away, but a few barrels in a safe location will really help.

I'm a busy guy too... any meal prep tips or "supplements" shortcuts like this really help. I hate having to reconstitute my PWO IGF-1 too... even just drawing it and switching pins is annoying. That's why I preload my shizz.

Stick to one account dude.

Overload · « **Reply #26 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:05:09 PM »

Quote from: 4thAD on July 22, 2008, 10:02:27 AM

you'll figure out this game someday! You know why Anthony Roberts has the rep he has? Because he does the same thing your doing, blabbing about science this and science that with no real world experience. He blabs about shit he hears from other people. Ive been very patient with you bro, and I'm starting to lose my patience. Get some real gear experience then start posting science backed up by real life experience. I dont give a fuck what some stupid graph says, doctors dont even prescribe 4xw injects with long esters. Prop is a different story. AJ explained this to you yesterday, about the difference between what you see on paper vs what really goes on in real life. Read up on how enanthate atoms are cleaved in your body then maybe you will have a better understanding. After a while pinning gear is no fun, you will find this out in time when your body is full of scar tissue.

You are using "Logic", which is something he won't understand for a few more years.

4th, you have been very helpful to me and you have also been very helpful and patient with Candi. this is becoming such a waste of time to even debate this stuff anymore.

Take care.

CAPTAIN INSANO · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2008, 12:30:36 PM »

Fawk it,

I'll just runn 600 mg/week

OTHstrong · « **Reply #28 on:** July 22, 2008, 01:41:19 PM »

You guys need to get along, man and you guys aren`t even dieting

. I will not say who is right, but 4thad hit it on the money when he said its an art, as stupid as it sounds. The combinations and human bodily reactions are 1000 times more complicated then a game of chess it cannot beknown by a science experiment thats for sure.

candidizzle · « **Reply #29 on:** July 22, 2008, 02:34:14 PM »

Quote from: Overload on July 22, 2008, 12:05:09 PM

You are using "Logic", which is something he won't understand for a few more years.

4th, you have been very helpful to me and you have also been very helpful and patient with Candi. this is becoming such a waste of time to even debate this stuff anymore.

Take care.

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Overload · « **Reply #30 on:** July 22, 2008, 02:35:58 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 22, 2008, 02:34:14 PM

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candidizzle · « **Reply #31 on:** July 22, 2008, 02:39:04 PM »

Quote from: Overload on July 22, 2008, 02:35:58 PM

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OTHstrong · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2008, 05:39:54 PM »

C'mon candi don't let these guys get a rise out of you, we are all brothers in the iron game.

MMC78 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 22, 2008, 08:57:18 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 22, 2008, 09:12:11 AM

yeah i guess if you dont feel any difference then there cant actually be any difference and al the science and studies can be just thrown out the window.

What are you talking about? Your graph clearly shows that the decanoate ester maintains relatively even blood levels for 10 days after injection.

Enanthate has a half life of 7-10 days and deconaoate has a half life between 7-12 days (right skewed). This supports the fact that enanthate can be injected once a week. The enanthate ester WAS DESIGNED for slow release so that weekly or bi-montly injections would suffice.

You don't know how to interpret studies, you don't know how to interpret graphs, you don't have a college education and you have no scientific experience. Go get some formal education or find another hobby besides giving bro-ology steroid advice.

candidizzle · « **Reply #34 on:** July 22, 2008, 09:08:48 PM »

Quote from: MMC78 on July 22, 2008, 08:57:18 PM

What are you talking about? Your graph clearly shows that the decanoate ester maintains relatively even blood levels for 10 days after injection.

Enanthate has a half life of 7-10 days and deconaoate has a half life between 7-12 days (right skewed). This supports the fact that enanthate can be injected once a week. The enanthate ester WAS DESIGNED for slow release so that weekly or bi-montly injections would suffice.

You don't know how to interpret studies, you don't know how to interpret graphs, you don't have a college education and you have no scientific experience. Go get some formal education or find another hobby besides giving bro-ology steroid advice.

look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.

4thAD · « **Reply #35 on:** July 23, 2008, 05:50:05 AM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 22, 2008, 09:08:48 PM

look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.

So if it is a steady release from day 1 -5 wouldn't two injections every 7 days, one Mon and the other on Thur work according to your graph? The longest you would wait between injects is four days.

4thAD · « **Reply #36 on:** July 23, 2008, 05:51:38 AM »

Quote from: Overload on July 22, 2008, 12:05:09 PM

You are using "Logic", which is something he won't understand for a few more years.

4th, you have been very helpful to me and you have also been very helpful and patient with Candi. this is becoming such a waste of time to even debate this stuff anymore.

Take care.

Thanx for the nice compliment Overload, right back at ya.

OTHstrong · « **Reply #37 on:** July 23, 2008, 10:32:40 AM »

I have a 5 cc bottle of test e given to a patient by prescriptions, pharmaceutical grade and it says one injection every fifteen days. After I get off test e completely, in the past, It takes at leat 4 weeks for me to start losing any type of size and strength, so injecting once per week is perfectively fine, I wouldn't even see a problem with injecting every ten days

MMC78 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:18:37 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 22, 2008, 09:08:48 PM

look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.

Look at the 4ml gluteal line. Blood concentration at day 4 is ~12nM, at day 10, it's ~10nM. These medications were designed for infrequent administration.

theworm · « **Reply #39 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:43:16 PM »

thats right! only inject once a week... no need for this every other day bullshit with compounds having 2 week half lives..

tolliscd · « **Reply #40 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:44:59 PM »

Positive comments and helpful advice is far superior than name calling and bullshit arguing. Everybody has different opionions and because 2 may think differently doesnt call for whose right or wrong...solely based on individual expierence.

theworm · « **Reply #41 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:54:50 PM »

Quote from: tolliscd on July 23, 2008, 07:44:59 PM

Positive comments and helpful advice is far superior than name calling and bullshit arguing. Everybody has different opionions and because 2 may think differently doesnt call for whose right or wrong...solely based on individual expierence.

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OTHstrong · « **Reply #42 on:** July 23, 2008, 08:08:12 PM »

Quote from: theworm on July 23, 2008, 07:54:50 PM

BULLSHIT!

hahaha. just playin.

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MMC78 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 23, 2008, 09:23:26 PM »

Quote from: tolliscd on July 23, 2008, 07:44:59 PM

Positive comments and helpful advice is far superior than name calling and bullshit arguing. Everybody has different opionions and because 2 may think differently doesnt call for whose right or wrong...solely based on individual expierence.

Fair point. What "frosts my nads" is when an 18 year old kid arrogantly dispenses incorrect advice on this board. He claims that his arguments are backed by science and studies while at the same time denegrating academia and formal education as being virtually worthless.

CAPTAIN INSANO · « **Reply #44 on:** July 24, 2008, 05:59:57 PM »

Quote from: candidizzle on July 22, 2008, 09:08:48 PM

look at the grap again. it goes from 5 to 10. it severly drops off after day 5.

It's a long ester....

Do you see gains rite away? Probably not, unless you of course front loaded the Enanthate. Nevertheless Candi, I'm injecting every 1st and 4th day. I appreciate your input, but I'm not pinning EOD for 12 weeks for a first cycle