just finished superdrol and tren 13 ethyl ....

[G.R.H.]

 the reseults were not much better than when i started. i weigh about 6lbs more. i don't notice much of a change at all in my size and my strength. (very little). i'm now using the pct stuff. rather disappointed! (i was probably not consistent enough either with the lifting), so some of it was my fault too. 

[marcus]

6 pounds doesn't seem bad unless it's all water/fat gain.

[G.R.H.]

i see no real difference in my waist size, so it must be some muscle weight.

[DK II]

i see no real difference in my waist size, so it must be some muscle weight.

No, not necessarily. 6 ponds put equally on your body will vanish.

Not hating, but there will be some fat or water gains.

[dustin]

No, not necessarily. 6 ponds put equally on your body will vanish.

Not hating, but there will be some fat or water gains.

Have you tried Superdrol? It's entirely possible. You get amazingly pumped and full from that stuff. It loads your muscles with so much glycogen it feels like you're on slin or something.

It's just as easy for people to LOSE those gains though. It could surely be fat, but it could also be water/glycogen. And when you're storing that much water/glycogen over time it does lead to more protein synthesis than training without it. That's why I'd only use it with some injectables, never solo. I did that and lost it all by getting sick during PCT a couple years ago.

[DK II]

Have you tried Superdrol? It's entirely possible. You get amazingly pumped and full from that stuff. It loads your muscles with so much glycogen it feels like you're on slin or something.

It's just as easy for people to LOSE those gains though. It could surely be fat, but it could also be water/glycogen. And when you're storing that much water/glycogen over time it does lead to more protein synthesis than training without it. That's why I'd only use it with some injectables, never solo. I did that and lost it all by getting sick during PCT a couple years ago.

What are you trying to argument?

I said he probabaly didn't get 6lbs lean mass, and you tell me superdrol stores more muscle glycogen?

[G.R.H.]

guys, fight nice! i's guess you are probably right that it's not muscle mass weight gain.  i did take measurements, and my chest size is still 45, my neck 18, my waist 39 , and myarms are 161/2. the arms are the only thing that went up in size by 1/2 inch.  my waist always was about 38, 39 for a long time.

[dustin]

What are you trying to argument?

I said he probabaly didn't get 6lbs lean mass, and you tell me superdrol stores more muscle glycogen?

Just saying that it's very possible, even with a shitty trainee who knows nothing about nutrition. Kids here pop m1t and SD like they're candy.

I think I lost my train of thought once I started responding because my gf's stupid ass dog started whining and bitching. Didn't mean to be a snap show about it. SD is pretty damn potent though. Next cycle I'm going to run just 10mgs pre workout and maybe some slin post workout and some test and tren (both short esters). Should make for an amazing recomp. I've been dieting down "naturally" for the last few months and expect to have a nice rebound