good or bad?

[dallas]

would taking clenbuterol be a good or bad thing? i know that it helps burn fat while gaining size but is there any other side effects that are good or bad?

[Big_Tymer]

i dont know about clen helping you gain size.  i know its anticatbolic but that doesnt necessarily make it anabolic.  some side effects include heart palpitations and shaking, but generally those happen to people who run high doses.

[candidizzle]

its anabolic, its a beta agonist

[OTHstrong]

A lot of people react different with Clen, personally its hard for me to get on with my day because I get a light head ach from it so I stay away from it. Shakes and hard on the heart, but then again almost everything available to lose weight has similar symtoms. I love ECA instead, but if you must start with the minimum that way there are no big surprises.

[candidizzle]

very ture. ive used clen once, for about 3 days. it didnt do anything to me except make me feel slightly naseuos and very tired.  im a big fan of ECA as well. i never take more than 25 mg/200mg/81mg nowdays though. and ill just use it about 45 mins prior to workouts. thats it.

[OTHstrong]

very ture. ive used clen once, for about 3 days. it didnt do anything to me except make me feel slightly naseuos and very tired.  im a big fan of ECA as well. i never take more than 25 mg/200mg/81mg nowdays though. and ill just use it about 45 mins prior to workouts. thats it.

When dieting to get down to 2% bodyfat i've gone as high as 16 times the amount you mentioned, I swear

[candidizzle]

When dieting to get down to 2% bodyfat i've gone as high as 16 times the amount you mentioned, I swear

holy fuck !    why didnt you just run t3 ?

[OTHstrong]

holy fuck !    why didnt you just run t3 ?

Because ECA is better if you look at the big picture only problem is as a stimulent you have to keep upping the dosage, but sinse my diet is only 10 weeks unlike most that diet for 16 upping the dosage is tolerable. Apetite surpresent, raises metabolism, makes you stronger, gives you energy, and burns fat... How can anything beat this. No T3, No clen, No Gh and I still get to 2% bodyfat. 4oomg of ephedrine in a day hurt though.

[candidizzle]

well t3 does all those things except appettite suppressant, but it doesn matter with t3. you can eat what you like.  and with t3 it helps you grow alot better as well. so youll end up more shredded and more muscular on show day.

[benz]

well t3 does all those things except appettite suppressant, but it doesn matter with t3. you can eat what you like.  and with t3 it helps you grow alot better as well. so youll end up more shredded and more muscular on show day.

Have you ever tried triac? t3? i've done it , you?

[candidizzle]

Have you ever tried triac? t3? i've done it , you?

no, not triacana, i wouldnt pay for that.

t3, yes ive tried it.

[OTHstrong]

well t3 does all those things except appettite suppressant, but it doesn matter with t3. you can eat what you like.  and with t3 it helps you grow alot better as well. so youll end up more shredded and more muscular on show day.

This simply isn`t true, t3 does not give you the strength that ephedrine does, not even close, and sorry but I am of the few that get down to 2% with striated glutes and nothing on this planet can take you that far without practically starving yourself. I`ve tried it and its over rated IMO. BTW how much more shredded do you think a human can get( 2%)

[candidizzle]

This simply isn`t true, t3 does not give you the strength that ephedrine does, not even close, and sorry but I am of the few that get down to 2% with striated glutes and nothing on this planet can take you that far without practically starving yourself. I`ve tried it and its over rated IMO. BTW how much more shredded do you think a human can get( 2%)

  do whatever works for you. i was just wondering why you used such high dose ECA instaead of just running low dose t3.

i doubt a human can even attain TRUE 2% bf, to be honest. that would mean thay are ACTUALLY at 0% bf... (2 % is like unreachable or soemthng like that)

[QuakerOats]

Because ECA is better if you look at the big picture only problem is as a stimulent you have to keep upping the dosage, but sinse my diet is only 10 weeks unlike most that diet for 16 upping the dosage is tolerable. Apetite surpresent, raises metabolism, makes you stronger, gives you energy, and burns fat... How can anything beat this. No T3, No clen, No Gh and I still get to 2% bodyfat. 4oomg of ephedrine in a day hurt though.

hahahahhaa, "2% bodyfat".

[Van_Bilderass]

and with t3 it helps you grow alot better as well. so youll end up more shredded and more muscular on show day.

I've never done T3 but I'm curious if anyone here feels it helped them grow. Either when dieting or bulking.

[abc123]

I've never done T3 but I'm curious if anyone here feels it helped them grow. Either when dieting or bulking.

T3 is one of my favorite drugs.  I would stay on year round if possible, but I limit it to just six months a year.  Never had an issue with permanant thyroid damage.  My thyroid levels have always bounced back within days.

When I add it into my cycle at 25 - 50 mcg, I always notice a significant difference in gains - both while dieting and bulking (I really don't bulk - I stay lean while I grow) and holding anabolics constant.   When dieting, the fat comes off easily with carb cycling and T3 at 125 mcg.  IMO, it does not work well with a Keto diet.

I also use T3 at 25 mcg with Clen and Humalog during PCT to maintain gains and keep the fat off.  Then, if I want to come off and let my body rebound, I stop the T3 as I hit my next steroid growth cycle.  That way it's less likely that I will put fat on as my body readjusts its natural thyroid level.  Then, after about six weeks I jump back on the T3 and really see a difference in growth.

[OTHstrong]

  do whatever works for you. i was just wondering why you used such high dose ECA instaead of just running low dose t3.

i doubt a human can even attain TRUE 2% bf, to be honest. that would mean thay are ACTUALLY at 0% bf... (2 % is like unreachable or soemthng like that)

I don't know what a true 2% is, but the day of my last show I measured 2% bodyfat with calipers.

[OTHstrong]

hahahahhaa, "2% bodyfat".

I'm sorry did I miss something, whats so funny

[abc123]

I'm sorry did I miss something, whats so funny

No, you did not miss anything.  Some people are just limited by their own minds.  If they can't do it, then no one else can either. 

Congrats on that accomplishment.  Very few people ever get that lean.

[OTHstrong]

No, you did not miss anything.  Some people are just limited by their own minds.  If they can't do it, then no one else can either. 

Congrats on that accomplishment.  Very few people ever get that lean.

Thank you very much, should be down that low again for Nov.