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Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« on: September 01, 2008, 09:56:14 AM »
Draft dodger.  What happened to his "asthma"?

Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft

Sunday, August 31, 2008 1:59 PM
 
Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War, the same number of deferments received by Vice President Dick Cheney, and later was disqualified from service because of asthma as a teenager.

Officials with Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's campaign released Biden's Selective Service records at the request of The Associated Press. Less detailed records were available from a National Archives facility in Philadelphia.


According to the documents, Biden, 65, received several deferments while he was an undergraduate at the University of Delaware and later as a law student at Syracuse University. A month after undergoing a physical exam in April 1968, Biden received a Selective Service classification of 1-Y, meaning he was available for service only in the event of national emergency.


"As a result of a physical exam on April 5, 1968, Joe Biden was classified 1-Y and disqualified from service because of asthma as a teenager," said David Wade, a campaign spokesman.

In "Promises to Keep," a memoir that was published last year and became an instant best-seller after he was tapped as Obama's running mate, Biden never mentions his asthma, recounting an active childhood, work as a lifeguard and football exploits in high school.

The Obama campaign pointed to media interviews from 1987, when Biden was making his first bid for the presidency, that mention his asthma.

Military service and questions about which presidential ticket would be stronger on national security are intertwined in the presidential race. Republican John McCain, a former Navy pilot who spent 5 1/2 years in a Vietnamese prison, has argued that he has stronger background to be commander in chief. Democratic nominee Barack Obama counters that McCain would continue a wrong-headed foreign policy from the Bush administration.

Biden has had extensive experience with national security issues in the Senate. McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, has been Alaska governor for two years and before that was a small-town mayor.

Biden's five student deferments equal the number given to Vice President Dick Cheney, who has been quoted as saying he had "other priorities" than military service in the 1960s.

According to records AP obtained from the National Archives, Biden registered Feb. 15, 1961, with the Selective Service, when he was an 18-year-old student at Archmere Academy in Wilmington. The archives documents do not include any information about his classification or physical exam.

Documents provided by the Obama campaign indicate Biden received a classification questionnaire in October 1963, when he was enrolled at the University of Delaware, and received his first 2-S student deferment a month later. Additional deferments were granted in roughly 12-month intervals, the last coming in January 1968, shortly before he graduated from law school at Syracuse University.

Then in April 1968, when he was 25, Biden was disqualified from service due to asthma.
 
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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2008, 09:58:01 AM »
bronkaid works wonders.

Unless you have proof he's lying about the asthma, you're a CTer, ockels.

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2008, 09:59:12 AM »
Nice.

Then he's as qualified as VP Dick is.


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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2008, 12:02:42 PM »
bronkaid works wonders.

Unless you have proof he's lying about the asthma, you're a CTer, ockels.


Oh ok...the shit u post is truth but an article pointing to him doging the draft pretty clearly isnt.
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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2008, 01:36:34 PM »
Hm, I do not have a big issue with this as he is not some pro war killing machine fanatic.

Now Bush and Cheney all war happy is an issue, and aren't they both "draft dodgers"? Don't talk the talk if you can't walk it.

McCain has earned his stripes, so although I do not approve of his lust for war, he can talk that game with credibility.

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2008, 01:43:11 PM »

Oh ok...the shit u post is truth but an article pointing to him doging the draft pretty clearly isnt.

Biden has served in Congress for 35 years.  His net worth is 150k.  He doesn't take $ from lobbyists groups, he doesn't sit on the boards of Fortune 500 companies, he doesn't make millions of dollars each year like Cheney does.

until someone present evidence that Biden doesn't have asthma, this is conspiracy theory bullshit.  Beach Bum might as well be standing with Alex Jones shouting about 911.  He doesn't attack cheney for his reasons for not serving, or Bush for going AWOL from guarding the TX border.  It's clearly partisan BS.  If the best he can find on biden is "Maybe he doesn't have asthma", well...

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2008, 01:46:04 PM »
The liberal brigade to Biden's defense, led by colonel 240.  Unable to stay on topic as usual.  Surprised no one has mentioned Palin yet . . . .

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2008, 01:47:09 PM »
The liberal brigade to Biden's defense, led by colonel 240.  Unable to stay on topic as usual.  Surprised no one has mentioned Palin yet . . . .

So after starting the thread with an unfounded CT, you issue a personal attack at me (for pointing out your CT theory), then you interject an unrelated hot topic like Palin into the mix.

You're desperate.  Breathe.

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2008, 01:55:14 PM »
So after starting the thread with an unfounded CT, you issue a personal attack at me (for pointing out your CT theory), then you interject an unrelated hot topic like Palin into the mix.

You're desperate.  Breathe.

Where is my "unfounded CT"?   ::)  I posted an article, called him a draft dodger, and asked a question. 

And quit being a drama queen (if you're able).


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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2008, 01:57:46 PM »
Where is my "unfounded CT"?   ::)  I posted an article, called him a draft dodger, and asked a question. 

And quit being a drama queen (if you're able).

Just like Cheney - who suffered from back problems - Biden was unable to serve his country in the military due to his lung ailment.  Instead, he chose to bypass the private sector, and devoted his life to public service.

"Draft dodger" refers to people who avoid serving their country.  Like Cheney, Biden had a medical condition, and wasn't allowed to serve.  Just like Cheney.

Would you consider Cheney to be a draft dodger, Beach Bum?

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2008, 02:05:02 PM »
Just like Cheney - who suffered from back problems - Biden was unable to serve his country in the military due to his lung ailment.  Instead, he chose to bypass the private sector, and devoted his life to public service.

"Draft dodger" refers to people who avoid serving their country.  Like Cheney, Biden had a medical condition, and wasn't allowed to serve.  Just like Cheney.

Would you consider Cheney to be a draft dodger, Beach Bum?

Where is my "unfounded CT"? 

I understand you want to change the subject as the board's foremost liberal defender, colonel, but I'll play.  Anyone who used deferments to avoid the war is a draft dodger IMO.

Of course, Cheney's draft dodging has nothing to do with Biden, but I don't expect you or any other liberal on the board to bat an eyelash.     

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2008, 02:35:18 PM »
Where is my "unfounded CT"? 

This:

I called him a draft dodger, and asked a question. 



Anyone who used deferments to avoid the war is a draft dodger IMO.

i see.  That's your take.  You continue disrespecting Dick Cheney.  I don't share your belief, but it's your right as an American to disrespect the VP like that.

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2008, 02:48:40 PM »
This:



i see.  That's your take.  You continue disrespecting Dick Cheney.  I don't share your belief, but it's your right as an American to disrespect the VP like that.

Lame.  ::)

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Re: Biden Received 5 Deferments for Draft
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2008, 03:04:59 PM »
Lame.  ::)

There's a witty rejoinder for ya.