Author Topic: Is Heavy always better❓️  (Read 2725 times)

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Re: Is Heavy always better❓️
« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2024, 12:38:59 AM »
It's not about this forum but her Youtube channel where she has always claimed natty status. We know she's full of shit but young women who follow her may not. When they don't get the results expected they will think it's because they aren't training hard enough or eating right when it has nothing to do with that.
We all believed the Weider BS back in the day too.. I'm sure the more intelligent women realise the truth.


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Re: Is Heavy always better❓️
« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2024, 01:05:24 AM »
Interestingly all power and weightlifters have big legs, natural or not and most gymnasts have big arms

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Re: Is Heavy always better❓️
« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2024, 08:34:27 AM »
depends wht you mean by failure



Exactly. I meant failure as in doing a set in a strict fashion and when you can't perform another rep in that fashion but start altering your mechanics you are now training beyond failure. Imagine Coleman doing t-bar rows, there can be no failure point because it all looks like shit from the beginning  :D

My opinion is that you have to work in that zone where you almost can't do another strict repetition, that is where the adaptation is most likely to occur, if you always stop your sets when you could do 2 more perfect reps you're not getting far imo. Every serious lifter spends considerable time in that failure zone, many will do a couple of less than perfect reps too.

Since you are now capable of 3 chins all your free chinning will be 'heavy as shit' but of course no one will see it as that, "it's just some chins," few will say or think, "look at that fool, he should work the muscle, not his ego"  :D

Heavy and failure has to be defined but those things are hardly bad if you think about it. If by heavy is meant you can't even do one correct rep then yes it's often injurious. Some define it by rep range, for example no one should work below 5 or 8 or 10 reps. Well I don't think you doing sets of 3 or 4 or 5 chins is stupid. 8)


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Re: Is Heavy always better❓️
« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2024, 09:57:51 AM »
Exactly. I meant failure as in doing a set in a strict fashion and when you can't perform another rep in that fashion but start altering your mechanics you are now training beyond failure. Imagine Coleman doing t-bar rows, there can be no failure point because it all looks like shit from the beginning  :D

My opinion is that you have to work in that zone where you almost can't do another strict repetition, that is where the adaptation is most likely to occur, if you always stop your sets when you could do 2 more perfect reps you're not getting far imo. Every serious lifter spends considerable time in that failure zone, many will do a couple of less than perfect reps too.

Since you are now capable of 3 chins all your free chinning will be 'heavy as shit' but of course no one will see it as that, "it's just some chins," few will say or think, "look at that fool, he should work the muscle, not his ego"  :D

Heavy and failure has to be defined but those things are hardly bad if you think about it. If by heavy is meant you can't even do one correct rep then yes it's often injurious. Some define it by rep range, for example no one should work below 5 or 8 or 10 reps. Well I don't think you doing sets of 3 or 4 or 5 chins is stupid. 8)
Its 4, I did 4  ;D

and they are not sets.   ;D