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Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« on: October 05, 2008, 10:14:47 PM »
Finally! i knew the Obama camp was saving this one for the last month before the election. And it could not be a more perfect fit, since we're in a financial crisis now.  This will show the retarted mcsame supporters that mcsame was and is apart of this financial mess we're in.

It does not get any better then this ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/14302

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 10:46:34 PM »
good timing , worse case scenerio is obama cancels mccains attacks out with his own attacks and keeps the current wide margin he has built.

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 10:50:01 PM »
Finally! i knew the Obama camp was saving this one for the last month before the election. And it could not be a more perfect fit, since we're in a financial crisis now.  This will show the retarted mcsame supporters that mcsame was and is apart of this financial mess me & my partner Will Harris are in.

It does not get any better then this ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/14302


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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 10:54:56 PM »
Maybe I know things before they happen... I would have waited til 2 weeks out... :)

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 11:08:55 PM »
Finally! i knew the Obama camp was saving this one for the last month before the election. And it could not be a more perfect fit, since we're in a financial crisis now.  This will show the retarted mcsame supporters that mcsame was and is apart of this financial mess we're in.

It does not get any better then this ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/14302


HUSSEIN OBAMA HAS TO ANSWER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR ACCEPTING CONTRIBUTIONS/BRIBES TO KILL MCCAIN'S BILL TO REGULATE FREDDIE MAC AND FANNIE MAE:



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How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis: Kevin Hassett

 Commentary by Kevin Hassett

 Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) -- The financial crisis of the past year has provided a number of surprising twists and turns, and from Bear Stearns Cos. to American International Group Inc., ambiguity has been a big part of the story.

 Why did Bear Stearns fail, and how does that relate to AIG? It all seems so complex.

 But really, it isn't. Enough cards on this table have been turned over that the story is now clear. The economic history books will describe this episode in simple and understandable terms: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exploded, and many bystanders were injured in the blast, some fatally.

 Fannie and Freddie did this by becoming a key enabler of the mortgage crisis. They fueled Wall Street's efforts to securitize subprime loans by becoming the primary customer of all AAA-rated subprime-mortgage pools. In addition, they held an enormous portfolio of mortgages themselves.

 In the times that Fannie and Freddie couldn't make the market, they became the market. Over the years, it added up to an enormous obligation. As of last June, Fannie alone owned or guaranteed more than $388 billion in high-risk mortgage investments. Their large presence created an environment within which even mortgage-backed securities assembled by others could find a ready home.

 The problem was that the trillions of dollars in play were only low-risk investments if real estate prices continued to rise. Once they began to fall, the entire house of cards came down with them.

 Turning Point

 Take away Fannie and Freddie, or regulate them more wisely, and it's hard to imagine how these highly liquid markets would ever have emerged. This whole mess would never have happened.

 It is easy to identify the historical turning point that marked the beginning of the end.

 Back in 2005, Fannie and Freddie were, after years of dominating Washington, on the ropes. They were enmeshed in accounting scandals that led to turnover at the top. At one telling moment in late 2004, captured in an article by my American Enterprise Institute colleague Peter Wallison, the Securities and Exchange Comiission's chief accountant told disgraced Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines that Fannie's position on the relevant accounting issue was not even ``on the page'' of allowable interpretations.

 Then legislative momentum emerged for an attempt to create a ``world-class regulator'' that would oversee the pair more like banks, imposing strict requirements on their ability to take excessive risks. Politicians who previously had associated themselves proudly with the two accounting miscreants were less eager to be associated with them. The time was ripe.

 Greenspan's Warning

The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn't be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie ``continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'' he said. ``We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.''

 What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

 Different World

 If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed.

But the bill didn't become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn't even get the Senate to vote on the matter.


 That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: ``It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.''

 Mounds of Materials

Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate Democrats in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.

But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.


Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.

Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix.

 There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.

Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that's worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess.


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Article published in the New York Times in 2003:
 
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New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
Published: September 11, 2003
 
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
 
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
 
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.
 
The plan is an acknowledgment by the administration that oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- which together have issued more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt -- is broken. A report by outside investigators in July concluded that Freddie Mac manipulated its accounting to mislead investors, and critics have said Fannie Mae does not adequately hedge against rising interest rates.
 
''There is a general recognition that the supervisory system for housing-related government-sponsored enterprises neither has the tools, nor the stature, to deal effectively with the current size, complexity and importance of these enterprises,'' Treasury Secretary John W. Snow told the House Financial Services Committee in an appearance with Housing Secretary Mel Martinez, who also backed the plan.
 
Mr. Snow said that Congress should eliminate the power of the president to appoint directors to the companies, a sign that the administration is less concerned about the perks of patronage than it is about the potential political problems associated with any new difficulties arising at the companies.
 
The administration's proposal, which was endorsed in large part today by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, would not repeal the significant government subsidies granted to the two companies. And it does not alter the implicit guarantee that Washington will bail the companies out if they run into financial difficulty; that perception enables them to issue debt at significantly lower rates than their competitors. Nor would it remove the companies' exemptions from taxes and antifraud provisions of federal securities laws.
 
The proposal is the opening act in one of the biggest and most significant lobbying battles of the Congressional session.
 
After the hearing, Representative Michael G. Oxley, chairman of the Financial Services Committee, and Senator Richard Shelby, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, announced their intention to draft legislation based on the administration's proposal. Industry executives said Congress could complete action on legislation before leaving for recess in the fall.
 
''The current regulator does not have the tools, or the mandate, to adequately regulate these enterprises,'' Mr. Oxley said at the hearing. ''We have seen in recent months that mismanagement and questionable accounting practices went largely unnoticed by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight,'' the independent agency that now regulates the companies.
 
''These irregularities, which have been going on for several years, should have been detected earlier by the regulator,'' he added.
 
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, which is part of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, was created by Congress in 1992 after the bailout of the savings and loan industry and concerns about regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which buy mortgages from lenders and repackage them as securities or hold them in their own portfolios.
 
At the time, the companies and their allies beat back efforts for tougher oversight by the Treasury Department, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation or the Federal Reserve. Supporters of the companies said efforts to regulate the lenders tightly under those agencies might diminish their ability to finance loans for lower-income families. This year, however, the chances of passing legislation to tighten the oversight are better than in the past.
 
Reflecting the changing political climate, both Fannie Mae and its leading rivals applauded the administration's package. The support from Fannie Mae came after a round of discussions between it and the administration and assurances from the Treasury that it would not seek to change the company's mission.



After those assurances, Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chief executive, endorsed the shift of regulatory oversight to the Treasury Department, as well as other elements of the plan.



''We welcome the administration's approach outlined today,'' Mr. Raines said. The company opposes some smaller elements of the package, like one that eliminates the authority of the president to appoint 5 of the company's 18 board members.



Company executives said that the company preferred having the president select some directors. The company is also likely to lobby against the efforts that give regulators too much authority to approve its products.



Freddie Mac, whose accounting is under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission and a United States attorney in Virginia, issued a statement calling the administration plan a ''responsible proposal.''



The stocks of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae fell while the prices of their bonds generally rose. Shares of Freddie Mac fell $2.04, or 3.7 percent, to $53.40, while Fannie Mae was down $1.62, or 2.4 percent, to $66.74. The price of a Fannie Mae bond due in March 2013 rose to 97.337 from 96.525.Its yield fell to 4.726 percent from 4.835 percent on Tuesday.



Fannie Mae, which was previously known as the Federal National Mortgage Association, and Freddie Mac, which was the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, have been criticized by rivals for exerting too much influence over their regulators.



''The regulator has not only been outmanned, it has been outlobbied,'' said Representative Richard H. Baker, the Louisiana Republican who has proposed legislation similar to the administration proposal and who leads a subcommittee that oversees the companies. ''Being underfunded does not explain how a glowing report of Freddie's operations was released only hours before the managerial upheaval that followed. This is not world-class regulatory work.''



Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.



''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''



Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.



''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said.



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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 11:10:36 PM »
Ummmm that post above mine... was from 2003, Obama wasnt in the Senate.  So he wont have to answer to that.  McCain WILL have to answer to the KEATING 5 SCANDAL that caused 21,000 ameircans to loose their life savings

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 11:13:14 PM »
Ummmm that post above mine... was from 2003, Obama wasnt in the Senate.  So he wont have to answer to that.  McCain WILL have to answer to the KEATING 5 SCANDAL that caused 21,000 ameircans to loose their life savings

But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.


Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.


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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2008, 11:16:51 PM »
But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.


Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.


Um mcsame cant say shit to Obama about Freddie Mac, as his campaign manager Rick Davis works for Freddie Mac and gets a $15K paycheck every month.  So enough with that bullshit.  

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2008, 11:18:39 PM »
But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.


Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.


McCains Campaign manager was getting 30K a month from them for YEARS... 2 years ago they droped it to 15k a month and he got that up until last month....

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2008, 11:28:49 PM »
Lets also not forget MCCAINS CHIEF of STAFF in his SENATE OFFICE MARK BUSE was a registered lobbyiest for Freddy Mac... Shit keeps getting deeper

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2008, 11:38:35 PM »
But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years.


Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.


How much money Osbomba got from his uncle Osama? And how much did he donate to his crazy preacher ?

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2008, 11:42:40 PM »
How much money Osbomba got from his uncle Osama? And how much did he donate to his crazy preacher ?

No matter what the GOP tries to do, its not going to work.. THis week the keating 5 scandal will drop him another 2-5 points in the pollings, then the money will stop coming in, and his campaign will sling anything at the wall...

I like rev right.  He completely PWNED everyone in his press confrence at the National Press club... (im sure you didnt watch it) Everything he said he backed up with facts, or biblical scriptures.  Even Coach should understand where he is coming from. Funny how when an induvidual talks about the dishonest things our Gov does behing our backs you are labeled as a crazy or a nut case.  Pull your head from your ass and go find the facts for yourself like we all did...

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 12:21:23 AM »
No matter what the GOP tries to do, its not going to work.. THis week the keating 5 scandal will drop him another 2-5 points in the pollings, then the money will stop coming in, and his campaign will sling anything at the wall...

I like rev right.  He completely PWNED everyone in his press confrence at the National Press club... (im sure you didnt watch it) Everything he said he backed up with facts, or biblical scriptures.  Even Coach should understand where he is coming from. Funny how when an induvidual talks about the dishonest things our Gov does behing our backs you are labeled as a crazy or a nut case.  Pull your head from your ass and go find the facts for yourself like we all did...

Dont worry about Rev Wright, Palin has her own pastor problems, he believes in witch craft! IMO alot worse then Rev W.  Mcsame can try and hit Obama with a right hook, but Obama can swing back at him with a left upper cut ;)

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Re: Obama to link McCain to 'Keating Five' savings-and-loan scandal
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 01:55:15 AM »
No matter what the GOP tries to do, its not going to work.. THis week the keating 5 scandal will drop him another 2-5 points in the pollings, then the money will stop coming in, and his campaign will sling anything at the wall...

I like rev right.  He completely PWNED everyone in his press confrence at the National Press club... (im sure you didnt watch it) Everything he said he backed up with facts, or biblical scriptures.  Even Coach should understand where he is coming from. Funny how when an induvidual talks about the dishonest things our Gov does behing our backs you are labeled as a crazy or a nut case.  Pull your head from your ass and go find the facts for yourself like we all did...

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