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Gyno?!??!? help
« on: November 17, 2008, 01:27:54 PM »
So I started a cycle 2-3 weeks ago and was taking arimidex every other day at 1 MG.  Got powder form which was retarded .... I learned my lesson but anyways was taking 1 mg EOD and I just noticed yesterday a hard lump under right nipple about 1-2 cms in size and i think its beginning to protrude and that area is sore and tender .  I've never had this occur, had maybe some water or swelling but never a hard lump, kind of freaking out.

3 questions

1.  I'm guessing this arimidex is garbage but I was thinking of upping the mg's to 2-3,  I know if its legit its supposed to shut down my estrogen but do you think it might work maybe its weak or wat not.  Will upping to 2-3 mgs be dangerous?

2.  I ordered some good nolvadex and clomid yesterday  If I start taking that in a week do you think this might shrink or go away or do I need letrozole?

3.  Do you think should get checked out by a doc anyway just to be sure or don't bother, I am sorta young 22 y/o male so im 99% sure its just gyno?


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Re: Gyno?!??!? help
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 01:30:45 PM »
Get yourself some legit letrozol...if you already have some gyno popping up letro will take care of it, nolva will not.

2.5mg of letrozol ed until the gyno clears then drop it down to 1mg.ed till your cycle ends.

Next cycle, stay on 1mg of either letro or adex, 1mg/eod

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 07:18:11 PM »
I wouldn't spend all that cash on anti e's chances are you will get gyno eventually anyway, hard to avoid if you are prone to it.  If you get it just get it cut out and never buy anti e's or ai's again.

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 08:59:42 PM »
I wouldn't spend all that cash on anti e's chances are you will get gyno eventually anyway, hard to avoid if you are prone to it.  If you get it just get it cut out and never buy anti e's or ai's again.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 09:05:02 PM »
I wouldn't spend all that cash on anti e's chances are you will get gyno eventually anyway, hard to avoid if you are prone to it.  If you get it just get it cut out and never buy anti e's or ai's again.

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Anti E's are not just for gyno. It is not healthy for the male body to be full of estrogen. Anti E's are a must IMO!

High levels of estrogen can cause reduced levels of testosterone, fatigue, loss of muscle tone, increased body fat, loss of libido and sexual function and an enlarged prostate.
 

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 10:19:55 PM »
I ordered some letrozole and nolvadex.  I can get my hands on nolva in 4 days letrozole 2 weeks.  Will run the letrozole until it clears up to a month.  If its not any better by then I think might have to consider surgery and a professional to look at it but training for a show right now so don't if I would do that before or after.  Don't really want to interrupt the training.  I'm just going to cross my fingers and hope the femara clears everything up.

Thanks for all your help guys always appreciated

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 02:18:54 PM »
So I started a cycle 2-3 weeks ago and was taking arimidex every other day at 1 MG.  Got powder form which was retarded .... I learned my lesson but anyways was taking 1 mg EOD and I just noticed yesterday a hard lump under right nipple about 1-2 cms in size and i think its beginning to protrude and that area is sore and tender .  I've never had this occur, had maybe some water or swelling but never a hard lump, kind of freaking out.

3 questions

1.  I'm guessing this arimidex is garbage but I was thinking of upping the mg's to 2-3,  I know if its legit its supposed to shut down my estrogen but do you think it might work maybe its weak or wat not.  Will upping to 2-3 mgs be dangerous?

2.  I ordered some good nolvadex and clomid yesterday  If I start taking that in a week do you think this might shrink or go away or do I need letrozole?

3.  Do you think should get checked out by a doc anyway just to be sure or don't bother, I am sorta young 22 y/o male so im 99% sure its just gyno?


Who was the Arimidex from?

If it was legit you shouldn't be having any gyno issues.....

I prefer Aromasin over Arimidex or Femara because it's effective yet doesn't have harsh sides.


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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 03:07:02 PM »
Get yourself some legit letrozol...if you already have some gyno popping up letro will take care of it, nolva will not.

2.5mg of letrozol ed until the gyno clears then drop it down to 1mg.ed till your cycle ends.

Next cycle, stay on 1mg of either letro or adex, 1mg/eod
Letro dose seems high ???
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 05:42:49 PM »
Letro dose seems high ???

The dose would be high if you just started a cycle and wanted to prevent gyno, water reteniton, fat gain, ect......

However, since you already have Gyno, Your only chance to get rid off it using an Anti-E drug is Letro, and at a dose of of at least 2.5 and a minimum of 30 days.

Is it possible to get rid off a little gyno with a smaller dose, or length of time???....Perhaps....by why spend money, unless the odds are in your favor!!!

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 06:34:00 PM »
The dose would be high if you just started a cycle and wanted to prevent gyno, water reteniton, fat gain, ect......

However, since you already have Gyno, Your only chance to get rid off it using an Anti-E drug is Letro, and at a dose of of at least 2.5 and a minimum of 30 days.

Is it possible to get rid off a little gyno with a smaller dose, or length of time???....Perhaps....by why spend money, unless the odds are in your favor!!!
I understand the need to go that high now with gyno flaring up but AJr. suggested for the next cycle starting letro a 1mg eod. I thought .25 eod would be sufficient.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 06:38:20 PM »
However, since you already have Gyno, Your only chance to get rid off it using an Anti-E drug is Letro, and at a dose of of at least 2.5 and a minimum of 30 days.
just theorizing here but i think you could probably get the same effect by using high doses of any serm or ai  for an extended period of time and achieve the same effect.

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 07:14:27 PM »
speaking of adex what are the harsh sides from it becauase im prone to gyno so im eating them like candy

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 07:28:04 PM »
speaking of adex what are the harsh sides from it becauase im prone to gyno so im eating them like candy
fucks with cholestrol pretty badly , all AI do. other than that, low estogen slows gains because estrogen is related to gh/igf-1 levels as well as other growth factors such as glucose metabolism satellite cell # and andro receptor density as well

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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2008, 07:31:59 PM »
fucks with cholestrol pretty badly , all AI do. other than that, low estogen slows gains because estrogen is related to gh/igf-1 levels as well as other growth factors such as glucose metabolism satellite cell # and andro receptor density as well
Do you use AI's bombz?
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 07:34:54 PM »
yeah

1mg adex mon-wed-fri with test as the main AAS

 but when i use dbol i use 1mg ed 

but i plan on lowering test and using more anabolics and then ill probably drop adex completely



im estrogen sensitive

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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 07:38:53 PM »
yeah

1mg adex mon-wed-fri with test as the main AAS

 but when i use dbol i use 1mg ed 

but i plan on lowering test and using more anabolics and then ill probably drop adex completely



im estrogen sensitive
You start the dex on the first day of your cycle?Would you use the same dose if you were using Letro?
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2008, 07:41:07 PM »
no i started with nothing then i used novadex from gaspari (ATD .. which is a potent AI...) then i switched to adex...