First cycle help any adivce welcomed!

[weareone1]

Whats up bro's im 21yrs old, 5ft 10inch 187lbs. My goal is to cut and try to put on 10lbs of lean mass if i can. I know its about diet to get cut but i want to perserve as much muscle and if i can maybe put some more muscle on if its at all possible. I will be doing cardio 5 days a week in the morning for 1hour. my cycle is like this:
Test E 500mgs a week. For 16 weeks (injected twice a week)
EQ 400 mgs for 10 weeks
d-bol 40mgs first 4 weeks jump start.
Pct will be Nolva.
How does this cycle look? anything i should put in or take out or change around please feel free.
Thanks for taking the time to help a newbee out and adding your experiances much appriacited.

[4thAD]

You should run HCG throughout the cycle, and you will need something more for than just nolva for PCT, especially after coming off of a 16 week cycle.

[iron_dawg]

if you are trying to cut test-e and d-bol aren't going to get you that...maybe you should save it all and go with
some test-p and winny tabs or hold off and just run it and bulk up then cut in the summer.

[Emmortal]

if you are trying to cut test-e and d-bol aren't going to get you that...maybe you should save it all and go with
some test-p and winny tabs or hold off and just run it and bulk up then cut in the summer.

Ehhh I can't agree with this at all.  Winny for cutting? Eh? You can use any drug to cut or bulk really, some will be a little more effective at both but it's all going to come down to diet and cardio as to how well you're going to cut.  Putting on 10lbs and dropping bodyfat at the same time is not a reasonable goal, it's unrealistic.  Most cycles net only about 3-4lbs of muscle when all is said and done, the rest is mostly water and some fat (diet dependent).

I do agree about doing the bulk now and then cut in the spring/early summer,  I think that's probably the better route.

[iron_dawg]

Ehhh I can't agree with this at all.  Winny for cutting? Eh? You can use any drug to cut or bulk really, some will be a little more effective at both but it's all going to come down to diet and cardio as to how well you're going to cut.  Putting on 10lbs and dropping bodyfat at the same time is not a reasonable goal, it's unrealistic.  Most cycles net only about 3-4lbs of muscle when all is said and done, the rest is mostly water and some fat (diet dependent).

I do agree about doing the bulk now and then cut in the spring/early summer,  I think that's probably the better route.

Well both of those compounds cause me alot of water retention the others don't and I am going off my personal experiences with them...what works for others
might not work for you or the next guy.

[Emmortal]

Well both of those compounds cause me alot of water retention the others don't and I am going off my personal experiences with them...what works for others
might not work for you or the next guy.

Well water weight doesn't correlate to cutting or bulking really because once you come off the compounds the water weight will subside, that's all I was pointing out.

[iron_dawg]

Well water weight doesn't correlate to cutting or bulking really because once you come off the compounds the water weight will subside, that's all I was pointing out.

I understand we both have different points of view which is fine that what this board is for...I am thinking in my terms of being cut while on

[iron_dawg]

this is his first cycle also alittle young still but I have no room to talk because I started young also...I would just go ahead and use those to bulk
then cut in the summer.  Keep it simple and grow young pup.

[Emmortal]

I understand we both have different points of view which is fine that what this board is for...I am thinking in my terms of being cut while on

Yea, there's that aspect as well.  I prefer to quantify the results of my cycle after I'm done rather than what I look like while on.  That's just me personally, but whatever tickles your pickle

[DIVISION]

Whats up bro's im 21yrs old, 5ft 10inch 187lbs. My goal is to cut and try to put on 10lbs of lean mass if i can. I know its about diet to get cut but i want to perserve as much muscle and if i can maybe put some more muscle on if its at all possible. I will be doing cardio 5 days a week in the morning for 1hour. my cycle is like this:
Test E 500mgs a week. For 16 weeks (injected twice a week)
EQ 400 mgs for 10 weeks
d-bol 40mgs first 4 weeks jump start.
Pct will be Nolva.
How does this cycle look? anything i should put in or take out or change around please feel free.
Thanks for taking the time to help a newbee out and adding your experiances much appriacited.

You should be able to gain 10lbs. training naturally.......

Think about waiting a few years and then turning to the Darkside?


DIV