Sweet brotha. Thanks for the info, how much long after does your skin start noticibly change? And how much does 1cc of gh come out to in iu's? Say I inject half a cc of growth what is the conversion into iu's? And one more question, would it be a big no no to inject using a 25 gage regular needle, while waiting for your insilin needles to arive? Dam holiday's, shit takes forever. Any help would be greatly appreciated.