hgh and cancer

[pugalist666]

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[jtsunami]

i'd stay away from hgh then

[stevekg]

DO NOT TAKE HGH! even if you have cancer in family its not good to add gh!

[Emmortal]

does hgh evan make that much of a differance ? i care more about strength and physical performance than the body building side  , how much stronger does that shit make you and does it kill your endurance the way test and roids  do ?

ps dennis kang loves that shit , hes got alien hr gieger fingers cause of it

Haha, Gieger fingers =)  One of my favorite artists!

GH doesn't add a whole lot to performance but does effect body recomposition over time helping you stay lean and in high doses can add muscle.

[4thAD]

I have heard that there have been studies that show that GH will not affect, nor will it grow cancers. I will look into this, and report back soon. Do not take my word on this as fact, because I cant completely remember the studies.

[Luv2Hurt]

I have heard that there have been studies that show that GH will not affect, nor will it grow cancers. I will look into this, and report back soon. Do not take my word on this as fact, because I cant completely remember the studies.

I think this is pretty true, but if I had cancer or had beaten it I dont think I would be thinking of doing hormones.  I would be happy to be alive and be Mr healthy, eating sprouts and stuff.

I would stay away from Igf-1 though as i heard this can accelerate tumor growth.

[Emmortal]

I would stay away from Igf-1 though as i heard this can accelerate tumor growth.

Well the issue with GH is that it converts to IGF-1 in the liver, which is where the muscle growth properties come from with GH.  This might be a problem if you have a tumor or cancer.

[4thAD]

I think this is pretty true, but if I had cancer or had beaten it I dont think I would be thinking of doing hormones.  I would be happy to be alive and be Mr healthy, eating sprouts and stuff.

I would stay away from Igf-1 though as i heard this can accelerate tumor growth.

I totally agree bro!

[jtsunami]

does hgh evan make that much of a differance ? i care more about strength and physical performance than the body building side  , how much stronger does that shit make you and does it kill your endurance the way test and roids  do ?

ps dennis kang loves that shit , hes got alien hr gieger fingers cause of it

No it doesn't.  It is a very expensive drug vs what you get in results.  You have to be on it for a while to get results as well.  I wouldn't waste my time on it, it has done more harm than good in competitors now days, that is my opinion though.

jt

[Luv2Hurt]

Well the issue with GH is that it converts to IGF-1 in the liver, which is where the muscle growth properties come from with GH.  This might be a problem if you have a tumor or cancer.

In my reading there are some people who say the Gh/IGF-1 axis can cause cancer, and others who say no    Personally I stay away and this may be one of the reasons cause I feel it could cause cancer by increasing IGF-1 output, I dont think HGH "converts" to IGF-1 though.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11161960?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedreviews&logdbfrom=pubmed

I dont take GH cause to me it is crossing a line sort of.  Anything that can cause some permenent changes like GH can I like to stay away from, but thats me.

[tbombz]

In my reading there are some people who say the Gh/IGF-1 axis can cause cancer, and others who say no    Personally I stay away and this may be one of the reasons cause I feel it could cause cancer by increasing IGF-1 output, I dont think HGH "converts: to IGF-1 though.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11161960?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedreviews&logdbfrom=pubmed

I dont take GH cause to me it is crossing a line sort of.  Anything that can cause some permenent changes like GH can I like to stay away from, but thats me.

well gh levels correlate with igf-1 production in the liver... so whether or not its directly converting into (liek test into estrogen) or not.. doesnt really mean much... the fact that gh = igf-1 is the point..

[Emmortal]

In my reading there are some people who say the Gh/IGF-1 axis can cause cancer, and others who say no    Personally I stay away and this may be one of the reasons cause I feel it could cause cancer by increasing IGF-1 output, I dont think HGH "converts: to IGF-1 though.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11161960?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_Discovery_RA&linkpos=1&log$=relatedreviews&logdbfrom=pubmed

I dont take GH cause to me it is crossing a line sort of.  Anything that can cause some permenent changes like GH can I like to stay away from, but thats me.

Whether it actually converts to IGF-1 isn't really relavent because GH levels directly correlate to IGF-1 production in the liver.  If you take GH you're IGF levels will increase thus the issue I was pointing out.  Yes, it may not actually convert and that should have been specified which is my fault.

[Luv2Hurt]

well gh levels correlate with igf-1 production in the liver... so whether or not its directly converting into (liek test into estrogen) or not.. doesnt really mean much... the fact that gh = igf-1 is the point..

I get the point.  It might mean something to someone who would like to be accurate and know more about the actual process.  You may not care about that though.

[tbombz]

I get the point.  It might mean something to someone who would like to be accurate and know more about the actual process.  You may not care about that though.

yeah i do actually and after you said that now i have up a different window and im looking into it ... im just saying that that fact is not relevant in that discussion

[Luv2Hurt]

Whether it actually converts to IGF-1 isn't really relavent because GH levels directly correlate to IGF-1 production in the liver.  If you take GH you're IGF levels will increase thus the issue I was pointing out.  Yes, it may not actually convert and that should have been specified which is my fault.

Not sure why you guys are focusing so much on the correction  when there is lots more there and my intent was not to make you look wrong.  Getting a bit defensive over there. 

[Emmortal]

Not sure why you guys are focusing so much on the correction  when there is lots more there and my intent was not to make you look wrong.  Getting a bit defensive over there. 

I was just pointing out the fact that I should have been more specific and that you were right.  Not really defensive at all, I like to point out when I'm wrong so no worries biggin

[Luv2Hurt]

I was just pointing out the fact that I should have been more specific and that you were right.  Not really defensive at all, I like to point out when I'm wrong so no worries biggin

Cool man, you were right also, it was just a technicallity.  The point you made was right on. Its all good