Obama wanted Iraq timetable, McCain said it was a terrible idea

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Looks like Dubya is gonna side with Obama on this issue.

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obama didnt want the surge, mccain did looks like dubya sided with mccain on that one which is the only reason why they can even talk about a time table.

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obama didnt want the surge, mccain did looks like dubya sided with mccain on that one which is the only reason why they can even talk about a time table.

I see you're changing the subject.

Nice work.

I don't blame you.  Bush listened to Obama in this case.  Not much else to say.

[tonymctones]

I see you're changing the subject.

Nice work.

I don't blame you.  Bush listened to Obama in this case.  Not much else to say.

lol it seems your ignorance is back...the reason that they are able to talk about a time table is b/c of the surge. I think you will agree that when the US does leave Iraq we will more than likely see a increase in violence in iraq, right? This is the point Mccain is trying to make that creating a time table for Iraq while it was still unstable will only increase the resolve that the terrorist have.

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lol it seems your ignorance is back...the reason that they are able to talk about a time table is b/c of the surge. I think you will agree that when the US does leave Iraq we will more than likely see a increase in violence in iraq, right? This is the point Mccain is trying to make that creating a time table for Iraq while it was still unstable will only increase the resolve that the terrorist have.

Okay.

So at what point did Mccain *join* Obama's thinking that a timetable for withdrawal was a good idea?

[tonymctones]

Okay.

So at what point did Mccain *join* Obama's thinking that a timetable for withdrawal was a good idea?

he meant at the right time, you have to have a time table but you dont create one when the country is in tormoil. when was the last time you heard mccain say no timetable? Ive heard him say he wants the troops home its not like he wants them over there forever, he just wants the job done right before they come home.

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when was the last time you heard mccain say no timetable?

May 2007... McCain Says No To Timetable - Meredith Viera/ TODAY

Jul 23, 2008 ... McCain: Any troop draw-downs in Iraq must be based on a realistic assessment of conditions on the ground, not on an artificial timetable"

Jul 25, 2008 ... McCain On Obama's Iraq Plan: "I Think It's A Pretty Good Timetable ...

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May 2007... McCain Says No To Timetable - Meredith Viera/ TODAY

Jul 23, 2008 ... McCain: Any troop draw-downs in Iraq must be based on a realistic assessment of conditions on the ground, not on an artificial timetable"

Jul 25, 2008 ... McCain On Obama's Iraq Plan: "I Think It's A Pretty Good Timetable ...

first off what where mccains words on the may 2007 today article?

when were the checkpoints last checked/ and they got what was it 15/18 or somewhere around there?

it seems to me that mccain has been fairly consistent on his views of iraq...again your missing his point, he means that you shouldnt make a time table and follow that just to follow that which is what obama wanted to do. He wants to make a strategy based on realistic assessment of conditions on the ground, that doesnt mean a time table is bad just that it needs to be based on these conditions not just bringing the troops home.

How long has obama been yelling for a time table?

[240 is Back]

Google "mccain no timeline" and see all his positions

[tonymctones]

i dont have that kinda time right now im bbq and trying to get over to a friends house to watch the texans game.

how long has obama been yelling for a timetable?
probably before iraq was considered stable correct

[Decker]

obama didnt want the surge, mccain did looks like dubya sided with mccain on that one which is the only reason why they can even talk about a time table.

Here is the Surge again.  Why?  The Surge is protecting the continued billions wasted in Iraq.  That's our tax dollars pissed away for nothing.

We are not securing any rights to Iraqi oil reserves for the US (not that that type of piracy would suddenly absolve the Iraq disaster of its wellearned reputation).  We are acting as muscle for the mega-oil companies making record profits...which they are entitled to in a free market.  I was laughing a bit too hard when I typed that.  The hundreds of billions of dollars spent to make sure that war profiteers and mega-oil corporations prosper is a damn shame.  Good men and women have given there lives for this 'noble' effort.

The only sane thing is to leave Iraq.  The US gets only 4% of its oil from there anyways. 

McCain is a clone of Bush.  And we all see how that's working out.

[tonymctones]

Here is the Surge again.  Why?  The Surge is protecting the continued billions wasted in Iraq.  That's our tax dollars pissed away for nothing.

We are not securing any rights to Iraqi oil reserves for the US (not that that type of piracy would suddenly absolve the Iraq disaster of its wellearned reputation).  We are acting as muscle for the mega-oil companies making record profits...which they are entitled to in a free market.  I was laughing a bit too hard when I typed that.  The hundreds of billions of dollars spent to make sure that war profiteers and mega-oil corporations prosper is a damn shame.  Good men and women have given there lives for this 'noble' effort.

The only sane thing is to leave Iraq.   The US gets only 4% of its oil from there anyways. 

McCain is a clone of Bush.  And we all see how that's working out.

I agree, McCain agrees the difference is you and obama just want to pull out period. For better or worse we are in this situation and pulling out just for the simple reason that we want out will do nothing but leave iraq with another dictator. Lets face it you guys are gonna bitch about it either way so we might as well leave it with a democratic base so that maybe we will have an ally or economic partner.

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I agree, McCain agrees the difference is you and obama just want to pull out period.

Obama had a 16-month withdrawal plan.  Mccain's was 36 months.

Kinda splitting hairs, aren't ya?

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Obama had a 16-month withdrawal plan.  Mccain's was 36 months.

Kinda splitting hairs, aren't ya?

who started this thread? now tell me whos splitting hairs?

[OzmO]

Not to split hairs....but ahhhh.....


Wasn't there a frenzy of criticism regarding Obama's time table?

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Bush listened to Obama in this case.

No, you ignoramus.  Bush intended to stay as long as necessary.  Now that we're close to cleaning up and moving on it has reached that point.  The timetable wouldn't have even been discussed unless we were this close to finally completing the new objectives.

And Saying BUSH listened to OBAMA is a complete farce (typical).  Obama was always more likely to place a timetable too early as that was always his goal.. to get out at any cost.  Bush actually wanted to win first. 

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No, you ignoramus.   

Relax, tiger.  I thought it was pretty damn funny.  Obama said we need to send missiles into Pakistan too, and McCain criticized that.

Until Bush did it a few months later, and killed the #3 man in AL-Q.

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We've been doing that long before Obama thought it was a good idea. watching u guys debate shit u have almost no idea about is hilarious. We knew exactly what the time table, time horizon or whatever u want to call it was going to look like months ago. The Iraqi gov knows who runs the show there, and if they want to stand on their own two feet, they have to play ball with us.

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I think I posted it as well. Obama didn't come up with this or have any effect what so ever. Try as he might, Obama didn't win the war in Iraq, vote for or against the war in Iraq, or even spend more then a few days in Iraq.

[Decker]

I agree, McCain agrees the difference is you and obama just want to pull out period. For better or worse we are in this situation and pulling out just for the simple reason that we want out will do nothing but leave iraq with another dictator. Lets face it you guys are gonna bitch about it either way so we might as well leave it with a democratic base so that maybe we will have an ally or economic partner.

Leave Iraq with another dictator...no offense, but who gives a shit?

I don't see how Iraq's political climate is a pressing concern to us and I could care less what the political apparatus is in Iraq.

A democracy ideally reflects the will of the people.  The Iraqi people hate us.  They hate the US and what it has done to the country.

We did our damage and the profiteers profited.  It's time to get out.

[Soul Crusher]

Looks like Dubya is gonna side with Obama on this issue.

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