Anti-Estrogen

[davemd]

There are several over the counter anti-estrogen products is there benefits of one over the other?

Mainly I have looked at Epistane, Nolvadex XT , I have tried 6-OXO and it did not agree with me (made me feel run down, dizzy, stopped taking).  I am looking more towards Epistane currently.

I am looking for some improvement to gyne issue (will settle for improvement versus complete resolution, which may only be surgically possible at this point.

[powerpack]

Epistane is a steroid, just by the way

What do you want to use it for?

If it is recover from a cycle then you need a SERM like NOVADEX
If it is just boost your T and stop Estrogenic side effect in a cycle then 6-OXO or Nolvadex XT (Anti Aromatase) are OK.

[davemd]

Both Epistane and Noladex XT are sold through supplement distributors and reading both marketing material for both they both appear to have Anti-Estrogen. 

I am not recovering from Cycle (the most I take is tribulus compound).  I am looking to boost T, and try something that may help with some pubescent gyne.  Of course gains would be good as well.

[powerpack]

Both Epistane and Noladex XT are sold through supplement distributors and reading both marketing material for both they both appear to have Anti-Estrogen. 

I am not recovering from Cycle (the most I take is tribulus compound).  I am looking to boost T, and try something that may help with some pubescent gyne.  Of course gains would be good as well.

Nolvadex XT is an Anti-E that I have used before it is OK.
I tried it with most of the other Gaspari stuff.

EPISTANE AKA HAVOK is a drug synthasised from the drug EPISTONAL.
It is being sold through a legal loop hole just like M1T and SuperBol was for a while.
It is a steroid with Anti-E properties that they give to men with breast cancer.
I tried it too ( I am a supplement slut  )
Once again it was OK.

I think Anti_Es taken with Trib or Eurycoma work better than just taking one or the other alone
 

[davemd]

Thanks pwrpack.  From your reply its sounds they are both ok meaning there was not a real differentiator between the two products in their performance or effects.

[tbombz]

your not going to gain muscle taking novadex alone. or any anti estrogen type product.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Why would you guys waste your hard earned money on that crap?  It's pretty easy to find the real thing with a little time and patience.  Legalities aside I don't get it.  Do you think you're not a "steroid user" because you use those prohormone supplements or whatever?  I mean hell nolvadex is cheap and easily found why waste your money on the supplement OTC version?

[mnunited]

is arimidex ok for cut cycle? primo+tren+prop+winstrol

[4thAD]

is arimidex ok for cut cycle? primo+tren+prop+winstrol

Adex is fine, its not the drugs that will make the difference, its the diet!

[FreakPeak]

Why would you guys waste your hard earned money on that crap?  It's pretty easy to find the real thing with a little time and patience.  Legalities aside I don't get it.  Do you think you're not a "steroid user" because you use those prohormone supplements or whatever?  I mean hell nolvadex is cheap and easily found why waste your money on the supplement OTC version?

Yeah, Nolvadex is cheap....and a known carcinogen....

[tbombz]

Why would you guys waste your hard earned money on that crap?  It's pretty easy to find the real thing with a little time and patience.  Legalities aside I don't get it.  Do you think you're not a "steroid user" because you use those prohormone supplements or whatever?  I mean hell nolvadex is cheap and easily found why waste your money on the supplement OTC version?

nolvadex and novadex xt are two different things. novadex xt made by gaspai is an aromatase inhibitor very similar to aromasin. nolvadex, as you know, is a serm.

many of the drugs you can buy are very strong, superdrol is one example of a very powerful steroid that is/was sold OTC. more powerful than numerous illegal steroids.

[powerpack]

nolvadex and novadex xt are two different things. novadex xt made by gaspai is an aromatase inhibitor very similar to aromasin. nolvadex, as you know, is a serm.

many of the drugs you can buy are very strong, superdrol is one example of a very powerful steroid that is/was sold OTC. more powerful than numerous illegal steroids.

Agreed

[MuscleMcMannus]

nolvadex and novadex xt are two different things. novadex xt made by gaspai is an aromatase inhibitor very similar to aromasin. nolvadex, as you know, is a serm.

many of the drugs you can buy are very strong, superdrol is one example of a very powerful steroid that is/was sold OTC. more powerful than numerous illegal steroids.

superdrol is overrated and has terrible side effects.  It's not nearly as powerful as a good old cycle of test.  Don't talk shit unless you've tried it.  And we know you only have one cycle if that under your belt KID! 

[tbombz]

superdrol is overrated and has terrible side effects.  It's not nearly as powerful as a good old cycle of test.  Don't talk shit unless you've tried it.  And we know you only have one cycle if that under your belt KID! 

you know that i havent tried superdrol ?  or a test cycle ?

[Emmortal]

superdrol is overrated and has terrible side effects.  It's not nearly as powerful as a good old cycle of test.  Don't talk shit unless you've tried it.  And we know you only have one cycle if that under your belt KID! 

If we're talking a mg to mg comparison of potency, Superdrol blows Test away.  The side effects aren't as bad as some people make it out to be and are individual dependent.  There are people who are super sensitive to testosterone as well and can't run it.

[MuscleMcMannus]

If we're talking a mg to mg comparison of potency, Superdrol blows Test away.  The side effects aren't as bad as some people make it out to be and are individual dependent.  There are people who are super sensitive to testosterone as well and can't run it.

Haha you're an idiot if you think superdrol blows test away.  Do you honestly think if Superdrol was that effective with minimal side effects thousands of people would be scouring the black market for anabolic androgenic steroids? I 've used both and nothing compares to real steroids period.  And the side effects are way worse than testosterone all else being equal.  Most of the dumbasses that say superdrol is so effective haven't used anything else.  Tbombz is a perfect example.  lol.  He hasn't used either and is quoting like it's the most powerful thing in the world.  I mean shit this board is filled with newbies that's for sure.