Oh no you didn't... Major Fox fuckup and appology.

[tonymctones]

LOL

FOX news "accidentally" drudged up a video that was a year old, and used it to bash obama.

i bet they ran that shit 40 times on monday and apologized once on tuesday (at their statistically smallest afternoon audience) hahaha

how many times you think msnbc ran the chair of obamas economic adivisors saying the fundamentals of the economy are sound and ragging on her like they did mccain? hmmmmmmm please do tell me whats changed in the past 6 months that makes her statment true and mccains false?

[tonymctones]

You're fucking priceless... I'm going to petition Ron to have your name changed to KingRedHerring...  WTF do you mean simply misquoted/mirepresented   I just told you exactly what happend.  It would be like me saying Bush said something that he didn't say but used his quote of someone else as his own words.  If I did that shit I would be wrong.  It wouldn't make the wrong right if a Bush appointee said something similar.  I'll try to refrain from calling you retarded.  KingRedHerring will do.

calm down again simple question bro...they apologized and corrected the story which is pretty much all you can ask for, however again where is msnbc et al...criticizing barrys chair of economic advisors for saying the same thing they crucified mccain for 6 months ago? shouldnt they apologize or at least give her shit for it?

[MB_722]

shit, I remember posting an article that said it didn't matter if info has been retracted the damage has already been done by the disinformation.

[tonymctones]

shit, I remember posting an article that said it didn't matter if info has been retracted the damage has already been done by the disinformation.

very true just look at palin and all the shitty rumors about her that were given time on msnbc and such i dont remember any of them apologizing for being wrong about those though.

[MB_722]

The Power of Political Misinformation

By Shankar Vedantam
Monday, September 15, 2008; A06

Have you seen the photo of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin brandishing a rifle while wearing a U.S. flag bikini? Have you read the e-mail saying Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama was sworn into the U.S. Senate with his hand placed on the Koran? Both are fabricated -- and are among the hottest pieces of misinformation in circulation.

As the presidential campaign heats up, intense efforts are underway to debunk rumors and misinformation. Nearly all these efforts rest on the assumption that good information is the antidote to misinformation.

But a series of new experiments show that misinformation can exercise a ghostly influence on people's minds after it has been debunked -- even among people who recognize it as misinformation. In some cases, correcting misinformation serves to increase the power of bad information.

In experiments conducted by political scientist John Bullock at Yale University, volunteers were given various items of political misinformation from real life. One group of volunteers was shown a transcript of an ad created by NARAL Pro-Choice America that accused John G. Roberts Jr., President Bush's nominee to the Supreme Court at the time, of "supporting violent fringe groups and a convicted clinic bomber."

A variety of psychological experiments have shown that political misinformation primarily works by feeding into people's preexisting views. People who did not like Roberts to begin with, then, ought to have been most receptive to the damaging allegation, and this is exactly what Bullock found. Democrats were far more likely than Republicans to disapprove of Roberts after hearing the allegation.

Bullock then showed volunteers a refutation of the ad by abortion-rights supporters. He also told the volunteers that the advocacy group had withdrawn the ad. Although 56 percent of Democrats had originally disapproved of Roberts before hearing the misinformation, 80 percent of Democrats disapproved of the Supreme Court nominee afterward. Upon hearing the refutation, Democratic disapproval of Roberts dropped only to 72 percent.

Republican disapproval of Roberts rose after hearing the misinformation but vanished upon hearing the correct information. The damaging charge, in other words, continued to have an effect even after it was debunked among precisely those people predisposed to buy the bad information in the first place.

Bullock found a similar effect when it came to misinformation about abuses at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Volunteers were shown a Newsweek report that suggested a Koran had been flushed down a toilet, followed by a retraction by the magazine. Where 56 percent of Democrats had disapproved of detainee treatment before they were misinformed about the Koran incident, 78 percent disapproved afterward. Upon hearing the refutation, Democratic disapproval dropped back only to 68 percent -- showing that misinformation continued to affect the attitudes of Democrats even after they knew the information was false.

Bullock and others have also shown that some refutations can strengthen misinformation, especially among conservatives.

Political scientists Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler provided two groups of volunteers with the Bush administration's prewar claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. One group was given a refutation -- the comprehensive 2004 Duelfer report that concluded that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction before the United States invaded in 2003. Thirty-four percent of conservatives told only about the Bush administration's claims thought Iraq had hidden or destroyed its weapons before the U.S. invasion, but 64 percent of conservatives who heard both claim and refutation thought that Iraq really did have the weapons. The refutation, in other words, made the misinformation worse.

A similar "backfire effect" also influenced conservatives told about Bush administration assertions that tax cuts increase federal revenue. One group was offered a refutation by prominent economists that included current and former Bush administration officials. About 35 percent of conservatives told about the Bush claim believed it; 67 percent of those provided with both assertion and refutation believed that tax cuts increase revenue.

In a paper approaching publication, Nyhan, a PhD student at Duke University, and Reifler, at Georgia State University, suggest that Republicans might be especially prone to the backfire effect because conservatives may have more rigid views than liberals: Upon hearing a refutation, conservatives might "argue back" against the refutation in their minds, thereby strengthening their belief in the misinformation. Nyhan and Reifler did not see the same "backfire effect" when liberals were given misinformation and a refutation about the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research.

Bullock, Nyhan and Reifler are all Democrats.

Reifler questioned attempts to debunk rumors and misinformation on the campaign trail, especially among conservatives: "Sarah Palin says she was against the Bridge to Nowhere," he said, referring to the pork-barrel project Palin once supported before she reversed herself. "Sending those corrections to committed Republicans is not going to be effective, and they in fact may come to believe even more strongly that she was always against the Bridge to Nowhere."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/14/AR2008091402375_pf.html

[MB_722]

this wasn't a mistake by FOX news.

They did this deliberately.

[tonymctones]

oh don't act like the republicans haven't been king of that very same shit. 

LOL dont act like msnbc hasnt done retarded shit like this as well.\

so who are you rooting for next season hugo?

[gcb]

Something keeps bugging me ...

I don't understand what you right wingers (and possibly others) don't get - you have to spend in a recession to pull the economy out of recession. The US government should be spending money now - this is the right time to do it. If everybody tightens their belt - guess what? Recession worsens.

[tonymctones]

Something keeps bugging me ...

I don't understand what you right wingers (and possibly others) don't get - you have to spend in a recession to pull the economy out of recession. The US government should be spending money now - this is the right time to do it. If everybody tightens their belt - guess what? Recession worsens.

yes and no if the government spends to much and doesnt get much back then guess what its worthless and not only will it worsen but the next few generations will still have to pay back the money.

do we need to pay for other mistakes and irresponsibilities, no
do we need frivalous spending, no
do we need spending bills rushed through, no
do we need to make loopholes for executive bonuses, no

[tonymctones]

LOL  remember that thread you started earlier today? you win hands down...

what am i supposed to be eating shit about?

[gcb]

yes and no if the government spends to much and doesnt get much back then guess what its worthless and not only will it worsen but the next few generations will still have to pay back the money.

do we need to pay for other mistakes and irresponsibilities, no
do we need frivalous spending, no
do we need spending bills rushed through, no
do we need to make loopholes for executive bonuses, no

I agree there should be no bonuses for executives and no hand outs to business - not if they are going to take their money overseas to hire cheap labour. I think there should be conditions on how the money is spent to make sure it goes back into the US economy.

But putting money into industries that hire US labour will certainly help. The problem you have now is that Bush mis-managed the budget so you don't have money to spend - during the good years of the economy you guys should have been saving. You will probably have to go into further debt before things improve.

[tonymctones]

I'm sorry, I forgot the and die part.  I don't remember what thread you're talking about and I really don't care.

LOL the who takes the board the most serious, again why am i supposed to be eating shit and why did you post all those youtube clips?

[tonymctones]

I agree there should be no bonuses for executives and no hand outs to business - not if they are going to take their money overseas to hire cheap labour. I think there should be conditions on how the money is spent to make sure it goes back into the US economy.

But putting money into industries that hire US labour will certainly help. The problem you have now is that Bush mis-managed the budget so you don't have money to spend - during the good years of the economy you guys should have been saving. You will probably have to go into further debt before things improve.

I agree but rushing through a reckless spending bill wasnt the way to go about it, further in debt is one thing biggest spending bill in history as just a start is another.

[Dos Equis]

Snore.   

[LurkerNoMore]

And again, you can't put a price on freedom.

What freedoms did we gain?  Let's see  you support this stupid statement.  Of course, you will ignore it.

If you are truly this dense, you should apologize for taking oxygen from the rest of the planet.

[shootfighter1]

Hugo, Obama misled us.  He campaigned as a uniter and a centrist when, in fact, all he has done is allowed far left policies to prevail and has allowed Pelosi and the liberal democrats to push through programs they have been trying to get for years under the fears of the economic crisis.

He already set us up for a decade of increasing national debt (and there is more spending to come) and higher taxation will come for more than the top 5%...it already has with taxation of capital gains, increasing sin taxes and limiting tax exemptions but there's more to come to try to pay for these expansive gov programs and bailouts.  He just proposed the largest operational budget in our nation's history for 2010.  Bush started it with TARP 1 and Obama has taken it to the next level.  We are rewarding bad behavior and increasing reliance on the gov.  Obama is a big government guy, thats what he believes.  Its just that he can move people with his skills of oration.

Bush was not a conservative and I wish there was a better option in 2004.  We need more moderates.  Two bad presidents back to back IMO.  Bush 1 and Clinton were fairly good presidents.

[LurkerNoMore]

LOL.  Remember when Fox got busted in the Mark Foley scandal for labeling and advertising him as a Democrat on the news.  Totally busted there.

[The Coach]

eat shit tony.

classic lol!!!

What's funny, Fox is really the only conservative news outlet yet they get bashed the most because the liberal outlets want to keep the truth covered up. Because of the liberal media not reporting and exposing Obama for what he is, the American people are paying for it.I'd be willing to bet anything that most if not all of those clips were edited in some way.

[Mons Venus]

Are you going to apologize for voting for Obama and admit the Repubs on this board were right about this guy?

Soapy soapy soapy.....

[The Coach]

Soapy soapy soapy.....

Original

[LurkerNoMore]

Soapy soapy soapy.....

Can someone explain to me the story behind this soapy suds studz whatever thing.