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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2009, 10:03:11 AM »

Hey didpshit u realize I'm active duty and have been for over 16 years right.......ur an epic moron. Agent Orange isn't even in the inventory anymore and is not now nor has it ever been a nerve agent. Do u even know what a nerve agent is. If something takes 20 years to kill u, is it really that affective. Again ur an idiot.  White phosphorus...do u have any idea what we use that for....its not a chemical weapon and neither is DU. I'm a fucking tanker and know infinitly more about DU rounds then u do. We have never used bio agents against anybody..so I'd ask u top provide proof. Please crawl back into ur hut before I call an arty strike on ur 3rd world ass.

No wonder america is having such a hard time in Iraq even though the country really doesn't have a military. Everything you posted is either a LIE or you are so braindead to facts it is stupefying. Try doing a little research on the very chemicals and weaponry you claim don't exist any more or are not used. Even the lame american CNN reported on the white phosphorus being used in Iraq and the deadly effects of DU. Yes agent Orange attacks the nervous system (nerve agent) and its effects are immediate, DU is DEADLY and has already caused much in the form of death, disease and mutations in new born children. If you really are in the military, which it seems you are not with your lack of knowledge, it would behoove you to do research yourself. You obviously have access to a computer and the internet...START LOOKING THINGS UP...and quit trying to argue LIES and UNINTELLIGENT FACTS
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2009, 04:27:18 PM »
Dipshit let me make this very very very very clear to u.....first off I served as a Company Commander with the 3rd ID during OIF 1....that means to idiots like u, that I had an M1 strapped to my ass as I kicked the dogshit out of Saddam. My Sabot rounds have DU...I'll be fine or I won't, they saved lives, American lives as they blew the hell out of Iraqi Armor. We don't use agent orange...we don't spray it from planes and didn't use it in Iraq. Its a friggen defoliant, not a nerve agent. It causes cancer...years from when guys were exposed. If it causes nerve damage, thats not the intent. We have plenty of actual nerve agents that do that, and kill within seconds, not 20 years..again ur a retard. I actually serve in the military, u serve as a retard that gets his news from the net. Show me published info on DU, the last time it was used was in 1991.
 
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2009, 04:29:53 PM »
This is what Agent Orange can do. I've also been to the US Army NBC school..100 hour course. I'm not a chem officer but served as the Company NBC officer as a LT. Nowhere in that course or any other NBC...CBRN course is agent orange classified as a nerve agent. If I'm going to drop an agent I want the guy to die immediatly. U have no idea SAMSON...none. Give up.

The following health conditions are presumptively recognized for service connection for Vietnam veterans, based on exposure to herbicides and related materials during the Vietnam War. Vietnam veterans with one or more of these conditions do not have to show that their illness(es) is (are) related to their military service to get disability compensation. VA presumes that their condition is service-connected.
Conditions Recognized in Veterans:
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Chloracne (must occur within 1 year of exposure to Agent Orange)
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Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma
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Soft tissue sarcoma (other than osteosarcoma, chondrosarcoma, Kaposi’s sarcoma, or mesothelioma)
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Hodgkin’s disease
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Porphyria cutanea tarda (must occur within 1 year of exposure)
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Multiple myeloma
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Respiratory cancers, including cancers of the lung, larynx, trachea, and bronchus
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Prostate cancer
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Acute and subacute transient peripheral neuropathy (must appear within 1 year of exposure and resolve within 2 years of date of onset)
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Type 2 diabetes
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Chronic lymphocytic leukemia
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2009, 05:35:53 PM »
Dipshit let me make this very very very very clear to u.....first off I served as a Company Commander with the 3rd ID during OIF
I don't care if you served your ass to the guy with the 12 inch dick...what does that have to do with what i said.
1....that means to idiots like u, that I had an M1 strapped to my ass as I kicked the dogshit out of Saddam.
Ummm..Saddam was hanged quite some time ago and no one (especially you) kicked anything out of anyone

My Sabot rounds have DU...I'll be fine or I won't, they saved lives, American lives as they blew the hell out of Iraqi Armor.
Better check your facts honcho...plenty of american soldiers are dying because of DU and are having children with SEVERE deformities. So far as being fine..hahah...when you are pissing blood, if you aren't already, and being told by a doc that you have kidney failure and liver lesions don't say you were not warned.

We don't use agent orange...we don't spray it from planes and didn't use it in Iraq. Its a friggen defoliant, not a nerve agent. It causes cancer...years from when guys were exposed. If it causes nerve damage, thats not the intent.

You just admitted yo don't have a clue what AGENT ORANGE does and neither do you know if it is being used in Iraq and Afghanistan...which it is. Agent oranges effect is immediate....twenty years are not required

We have plenty of actual nerve agents that do that, and kill within seconds, not 20 years So you do admit america is using nerve agents in Iraq..again ur a retard.

I actually serve in the military, u serve as a retard that gets his news from the net. Show me published info on DU, the last time it was used was in 1991. Here ia a page of links of all the proof needed to the dangers of DU. I am sure you will make more fallacious claims that DU is harmless...I look at it this way...If you don't give a damn about your life, then why should I or anyone else... http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du.htm
 

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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2009, 05:38:34 PM »
This is what Agent Orange can do. I've also been to the US Army NBC school..100 hour course. I'm not a chem officer but served as the Company NBC officer as a LT. Nowhere in that course or any other NBC...CBRN course is agent orange classified as a nerve agent. If I'm going to drop an agent I want the guy to die immediatly. U have no idea SAMSON...none. Give up.

The following health conditions are presumptively recognized for service connection for Vietnam veterans, based on exposure to herbicides and related materials during the Vietnam War. Vietnam veterans with one or more of these conditions do not have to show that their illness(es) is (are) related to their military service to get disability compensation. VA presumes that their condition is service-connected.
Conditions Recognized in Veterans:
1.
Chloracne (must occur within 1 year of exposure to Agent Orange)
2.
Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma
3.
Soft tissue sarcoma (other than osteosarcoma, chondrosarcoma, Kaposi’s sarcoma, or mesothelioma)
4.
Hodgkin’s disease
5.
Porphyria cutanea tarda (must occur within 1 year of exposure)
6.
Multiple myeloma
7.
Respiratory cancers, including cancers of the lung, larynx, trachea, and bronchus
8.
Prostate cancer
9.
Acute and subacute transient peripheral neuropathy (must appear within 1 year of exposure and resolve within 2 years of date of onset)
10.
Type 2 diabetes
11.
Chronic lymphocytic leukemia

And wouldn't you know Sherlock that Iraq's CANCER rate has EXPLODED since the unlawful attack on it by america with it chemical and biological weapons...with this list you displayed being many of the diseases and condition they are now suffering with, which they did NOT have before.
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2009, 06:00:26 PM »


Well I must have been doing something else during 2003, ur right. They found Saddam ina hole, so ur right, I just kicked the hell out of his guys.  I guess anybody who who serves in the military is an affront to ur manhood right. Unless ur prepared to show me facts, studies etc..I'd say u have ZERO FUCKING IDEA. Plenty of guysi served with who were in OIF 1 have had children without issues, so again u don't have a clue. No Agent organge isn't being used, show me where it has been. Its not a nerve agent idiot, its a fucking herbicide. Just because u think something is true, doesn't make it so. I have first hand experience, u have .....the net. And guess what SAMSOM, any site that is link after link of anti-wat bs, yeah they should be believed. ::) Oh and just to make ur head explode even more,  I could care less if Iraqi's get cancer. DU is fucking wonderful. A sabot fires a long rod penetrator into the side of a tank, then it liquifies and spews into the turrent, it either incinerates the assholes inside or they can get sucked out the other side, in some cases. That hole is small too, so they look like spagetti. I never saw it myself. Most crews are incinerated.
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2009, 06:03:54 PM »
Well I must have been doing something else during 2003, ur right. They found Saddam ina hole, so ur right, I just kicked the hell out of his guys.  I guess anybody who who serves in the military is an affront to ur manhood right. Unless ur prepared to show me facts, studies etc..I'd say u have ZERO FUCKING IDEA. Plenty of guysi served with who were in OIF 1 have had children without issues, so again u don't have a clue. No Agent organge isn't being used, show me where it has been. Its not a nerve agent idiot, its a fucking herbicide. Just because u think something is true, doesn't make it so. I have first hand experience, u have .....the net. And guess what SAMSOM, any site that is link after link of anti-wat bs, yeah they should be believed. ::) Oh and just to make ur head explode even more,  I could care less if Iraqi's get cancer. DU is fucking wonderful. A sabot fires a long rod penetrator into the side of a tank, then it liquifies and spews into the turrent, it either incinerates the assholes inside or they can get sucked out the other side, in some cases. That hole is small too, so they look like spagetti. I never saw it myself. Most crews are incinerated.

Didn't Saddam get outted by a greedy Iraqi so they could be rich?

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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2009, 06:05:35 PM »
His driver got captured and he talked. Saddam had used that hiding spot before and he had been there the whole time we were looking for him. His people stayed pretty loyal, they did however sell out his sons.
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2009, 06:11:28 PM »
His driver got captured and he talked. Saddam had used that hiding spot before and he had been there the whole time we were looking for him. His people stayed pretty loyal, they did however sell out his sons.

I see... I guess that does make it a little better.

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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2009, 06:16:40 PM »
I have no idea if they paid that guy, or they just kicked his ass until he talked. They were closing in on him anyway.
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2009, 06:20:17 PM »
I have no idea if they paid that guy, or they just kicked his ass until he talked. They were closing in on him anyway.

Funny... That's what was said pretty much every day until he actually was caught because someone talked.

You'll forgive me if I don't exactly believe that.

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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2009, 06:30:09 PM »
They had a good idea where he was...what city etc. They had alot of close calls with Al Zarquwi, to the point that his drive shot himself as AZ fled, because the Americans had him. They had a predator following his car with SOF following behind. He jumped out and they continued following....something happened with the pred that made it zoom out for a second and he was gone.
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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2009, 06:36:19 PM »
They had a good idea where he was...what city etc. They had alot of close calls with Al Zarquwi, to the point that his drive shot himself as AZ fled, because the Americans had him. They had a predator following his car with SOF following behind. He jumped out and they continued following....something happened with the pred that made it zoom out for a second and he was gone.

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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2009, 09:42:24 PM »
Well I must have been doing something else during 2003, ur right. They found Saddam ina hole, so ur right, I just kicked the hell out of his guys.  I guess anybody who who serves in the military is an affront to ur manhood right. Unless ur prepared to show me facts, studies etc..I'd say u have ZERO FUCKING IDEA. Plenty of guysi served with who were in OIF 1 have had children without issues, so again u don't have a clue. No Agent organge isn't being used, show me where it has been. Its not a nerve agent idiot, its a fucking herbicide. Just because u think something is true, doesn't make it so. I have first hand experience, u have .....the net. And guess what SAMSOM, any site that is link after link of anti-wat bs, yeah they should be believed. ::) Oh and just to make ur head explode even more,  I could care less if Iraqi's get cancer. DU is fucking wonderful. A sabot fires a long rod penetrator into the side of a tank, then it liquifies and spews into the turrent, it either incinerates the assholes inside or they can get sucked out the other side, in some cases. That hole is small too, so they look like spagetti. I never saw it myself. Most crews are incinerated.

I had a buddy back in college in the 90's that was with the 3rd ID. He had a story of the NCOs putting a bunch of goats into a old AV and shooting it with a DU round. Said all that was left was red mist, and the vehicle was relatively intact.  That's brisk, baby!

I wonder what it would do to a mud hut?

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Re: Oath Keepers: Declaration of Orders We Will Not Obey
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2009, 11:16:48 AM »
I would be wasting ur tax dollars if I did that...a regular old HE round would be fine.
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