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Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« on: March 29, 2009, 10:06:32 AM »
Though the likelihood of this happeing is far fetched, it would be nice to see a world court jail the asses of those american Bush administration officials (including Bush, Cheney, Pearl, Wolfowitz etc) who have committed/are responsible such attrocities

Spanish court considers trying former US officials
By PAUL HAVEN – 14 hours ago

MADRID, (AP) — A Spanish court has agreed to consider opening a criminal case against six former Bush administration officials, including former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, over allegations they gave legal cover for torture at Guantanamo Bay, a lawyer in the case said Saturday.

Human rights lawyers brought the case before leading anti-terror judge Baltasar Garzon, who agreed to send it on to prosecutors to decide whether it had merit, Gonzalo Boye, one of the lawyers who brought the charges, told The Associated Press.

The ex-Bush officials are Gonzales; former undersecretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith; former Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff David Addington; Justice Department officials John Yoo and Jay S. Bybee; and Pentagon lawyer William Haynes.

"The charges as related to me make no sense," Feith said Saturday. "They criticize me for promoting a controversial position that I never advocated."

Yoo declined to comment. A message left at the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco where Bybee is now a judge was not immediately returned. A message left at Chevron Corp. in San Ramon, Calif., where Haynes reportedly works as an attorney was not immediately returned.

Spanish law allows courts to reach beyond national borders in cases of torture or war crimes under a doctrine of universal justice, though the government has recently said it hopes to limit the scope of the legal process.

Garzon became famous for bringing charges against former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998, and he and other Spanish judges have agreed to investigate alleged abuses everywhere from Tibet to Argentina's "dirty war," El Salvador and Rwanda.

Still, the country's record in prosecuting such cases has been spotty at best, with only one suspect extradited to Spain so far.

When a similar case was brought against Israeli officials earlier this year, Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos assured his Israeli counterpart that the process would be quashed.

Even if indictments are eventually handed down against the U.S. officials, it is far from clear whether arrests would ever take place. The officials would have to travel outside the United States and to a country willing to take them into custody before possible extradition to Spain.

The officials are charged with providing a legal cover for interrogation methods like waterboarding against terrorism suspects at Guantanamo, which the Spanish human rights lawyers say amounted to torture.

Yoo, for instance, wrote a series of secret memos that claimed the president had the legal authority to circumvent the Geneva Conventions.

President George W. Bush always denied the U.S. tortured anyone. The U.S. has acknowledged that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described plotter of Sept. 11, and a few other prisoners were waterboarded at secret CIA prisons before being taken to Guantanamo, but the Bush administration insisted that all interrogations were lawful.

Boye said he expected the National Court to take the case forward, and dismissed concerns that it would harm bilateral relations between the two countries.

He said that some of the victims of the alleged torture were Spaniards, strengthening the argument for Spanish jurisdiction.

"When you bring a case like this you can't stop to make political judgments as to how it might affect bilateral relations between countries," he told the AP." It's too important for that."

Boye noted that the case was brought not against interrogators who might have committed crimes but by the lawyers and other high-placed officials who gave cover for their actions.

"Our case is a denunciation of lawyers, by lawyers, because we don't believe our profession should be used to help commit such barbarities," he said.

Another lawyer with detailed knowledge of the case told the AP that Garzon's decision to consider the charges was "a significant first step." The lawyer spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media.

There was no immediate comment from Garzon or the government.

The judge's decision to send the case against the American officials to prosecutors means it will proceed, at least for now. Prosecutors must now decide whether to recommend a full-blown investigation, though Garzon is not bound by their decision.

The proceedings against the Bush Administration officials could be embarrassing for Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who has been keen to improve ties with the United States after frosty relations during the Bush Administration.

Zapatero is scheduled to meet President Barack Obama for the first time on April 5 during a summit in Prague.

Associated Press writers Harold Heckle in Madrid and Lisa Leff in San Francisco contributed to this report.

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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 05:32:47 PM »
Well if we're gonna go after every idiot out there , then u first dipshit.
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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 09:05:51 AM »
Well if we're gonna go after every idiot out there , then u first dipshit.

Are you a STALKER????
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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 10:27:51 AM »
Nope.....I want to know where ur from.
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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 01:27:12 PM »

The proceedings against the Bush Administration officials could be embarrassing for Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who has been keen to improve ties with the United States after frosty relations during the Bush Administration.


No kidding.   ::)

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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 03:03:11 PM »
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good luck with that.


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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2009, 05:04:50 PM »
Behind this lawsuit , is Gonzalo Boyé, one of the lawyers of the Palestinian Center for Human Rights.

The lawyer was a member of Chilean MIR and collaborated in the kidnapping of Emiliano Revilla on behalf of ETA. Along with three other members of the organization, he followed the movements of the entrepreneur, for which he spent ten years in prison, convicted of collaboration with a terrorist gang. While in prison he studied law at the National University of Distance Education. The lawyer has defended ETA terrorists and people linked to ETA in recent years.

He also represented one of the victims of the Madrid bombings during the trial. During the entire judicial process he vehemently defended the official theory of the attacks, to the point that he stated that what the experts said about the explosives used in the attacks was irrelevant.


Haahhahhaah...douchebag. I hope he gets hit by a car as well.
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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2009, 05:08:33 PM »
Unreal huh!! Another nation crying over past glories. All this after a huge terror bombing plus years of terror attacks from the Basques.
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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 06:32:04 AM »
Well, if we're gonna tell other countries "hand over all your citizens who we suspect to be involved in terrorist attacks, do not be surprised when this attitude is reciprocated. Besides, this has nothing to do with terrorists, this has to do with another of Bush's fuckups, preventing Spain from holding a seat at the G20 meetings a year or so ago, they are after all the 8th richest economy on the world, which infuriated the Spanish government and now has this European country leaning more towards a future Russian/Chinese military organization, away from the NATO (aka USA). And they've made it clear a couple of weeks ago that they are not bluffing when they announced their immediate withdrawal from Kosovo. 

The last thing we want right now is to be losing allies, and FUCKUP Bush managed to do just that when all he had to do is get Zapatero a fucking seat at the first G20 meeting. This Texan fuckup couldn't even do that. What an asshole! What a fucking disgrace to assholes!

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Re: Spain Court Considers Trying Former US Officials
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 08:13:01 AM »
They can go...no big loss. Kosovo..ur kidding right. The current Spainish government is a bunch of socialist, terror appeasing shitbags. Let em whine.
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