thisis the greatest true natural. would have been the first mr o if there was such a thing back then...
Go to www.musclememory.com - and look at the pre WWII bodybuilders. Anyone substantially bigger and leaner than those guys is probably on the drugs:).
These things aren't that fun to play without heights and weights listed. Generally figure a regular height(5'9"-6') big natural will be 180-200lbs in contest shape.
no way in hell a natural is going to be 180-200lbs contest shape unless they are 6'2'' or above
I don't know, I've seen some guys get into that range at 5-6% bf, granted it would be the tippy top of the genetic elite.