nice video from a former Vet on his views on Tim McVeigh

[Hereford]

I have no such opinion.  I believe in democracy, in peaceful means to obtain goals and to sway the government.  

I can question it because you are of the mind that terrorism is okay and therefore 9/11 is justified.  

You like to say 'no connection' but anyone can see the connection.  terrorism on us soil committed by extremists.  You support it.  you are not patriotic and honestly, you're a disgrace to the united states of america.  I'm done discussing this with you.  

Here, maybe you can't hear me....

THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN 9/11 AND OKC!

Go tell 'anyone' that to say the two events are connected is like saying that since kcballer is a duchebag and got a speeding ticket, I am connected to him since I got a ticket too, 1500 miles away.

[Deicide]

Here, maybe you can't hear me....

THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN 9/11 AND OKC!

Go tell 'anyone' that to say the two events are connected is like saying that since kcballer is a duchebag and got a speeding ticket, I am connected to him since I got a ticket too, 1500 miles away.

Mexicans.

[Hereford]

Might as well be... with kc's logic.

I'm sure the goddamn Mongorians are involved too somehow.....

[Soul Crusher]

Quit calling names and realize that there are no innocents.

DHS, ATF, FBI, CIA, DEA, USMS, SS, Et al monitor sites.  Be careful what you say.

[BM OUT]

I am struggling to comprehend what i just read.  You're as bad as Hereford.  Absolute disgrace to the American people. 

Really?So defending or being friends with terrorists makes you a"disgrace to all Americans".Well,Obama is pals with William Ayers,who is EXACTLY the same as McVeigh,except he sucked at setting bombs[most libs have no skill at anything that actually works].Is Obama a disgrace to Americans?He became friends knowing that Ayers set bombs against government agencies?So,clearly you have the same opinion of Obama that do of me.

By the way,did Bill Ayers get punnished?Did JANET RENO get ounnished.She killed over 100 innocent Ameicans?Did the ATF agents get punnished for the killings at Ruby Ridge?The answer to all those are NO!!!Thats what causes a McVeigh.

[kcballer]

Here, maybe you can't hear me....

THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN 9/11 AND OKC!

Go tell 'anyone' that to say the two events are connected is like saying that since kcballer is a duchebag and got a speeding ticket, I am connected to him since I got a ticket too, 1500 miles away.

The fact is YOU are sympathizing with a terrorist.  Its pretty easy to see you are unpatriotic.  Like i said you are of the mind that terrorism is okay and whether you verbally acknowledge it or not anyone with a mind can see you'll 'be able to see the terrorist side of things' when it comes to 9/11.  Gutless coward. 

[kcballer]

Really?So defending or being friends with terrorists makes you a"disgrace to all Americans".Well,Obama is pals with William Ayers,who is EXACTLY the same as McVeigh,except he sucked at setting bombs[most libs have no skill at anything that actually works].Is Obama a disgrace to Americans?He became friends knowing that Ayers set bombs against government agencies?So,clearly you have the same opinion of Obama that do of me.

By the way,did Bill Ayers get punnished?Did JANET RENO get ounnished.She killed over 100 innocent Ameicans?Did the ATF agents get punnished for the killings at Ruby Ridge?The answer to all those are NO!!!Thats what causes a McVeigh.

Billy firstly Obama and Ayers aren't 'friends'.  They were on a school board together with many other people.  This was after Ayers was no longer wanted by the FBI.  There is ZERO evidence of them being 'friends' in any sense of the word. 

I've never once said those people shouldn't have been punished have i? No.  Fact is they should have.  Those 168 innocent people however, shouldn't have. 

Fact is what causes a McVeigh is mental retardation to the degree that you think it's justified to kill innocent people.  This is a civilized country not some barbarian backwater.  It's people like McVeigh who remind me of another extremest group who resort to violence against innocent people because of some retardation in their brain.  I think they were responsible for 9/11 and are just are cowardly as McVeigh even though you might think it's a tough guy thing to do. 

[BM OUT]

Billy firstly Obama and Ayers aren't 'friends'.  They were on a school board together with many other people.  This was after Ayers was no longer wanted by the FBI.  There is ZERO evidence of them being 'friends' in any sense of the word. 

I've never once said those people shouldn't have been punished have i? No.  Fact is they should have.  Those 168 innocent people however, shouldn't have. 

Fact is what causes a McVeigh is mental retardation to the degree that you think it's justified to kill innocent people.  This is a civilized country not some barbarian backwater.  It's people like McVeigh who remind me of another extremest group who resort to violence against innocent people because of some retardation in their brain.  I think they were responsible for 9/11 and are just are cowardly as McVeigh even though you might think it's a tough guy thing to do. 

Obviously you are an Obama butt boy.He kicked off his political career in Bill Ayers living room!!!THATS A FACT!He is pals with Bill Ayers AFTER he knew he was a terrorist.Bill Ayers got off on a technicality.He has ADMITTED what he did and says to this day "I wish we had done more".So,before you knock me for getting behind McVeigh,knock your boy Obama for getting behind Bill Ayers.

"CNN later confirmed that Barack Obama indeed began his political career in the living room of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, despite his protestations to the contrary (confirmed beginning about 4:25 into the video below)."

[kcballer]

Obviously you are an Obama butt boy.He kicked off his political career in Bill Ayers living room!!!THATS A FACT!He is pals with Bill Ayers AFTER he knew he was a terrorist.Bill Ayers got off on a technicality.He has ADMITTED what he did and says to this day "I wish we had done more".So,before you knock me for getting behind McVeigh,knock your boy Obama for getting behind Bill Ayers.

"CNN later confirmed that Barack Obama indeed began his political career in the living room of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, despite his protestations to the contrary (confirmed beginning about 4:25 into the video below)."

EDIT- Just looked into it further Investigations by the New York Times, CNN, and other news organizations concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers. "We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions" - Ayers



The point isn't that though Billy.  The point is mcveigh is a cowardly loser who killed innocent people.  Regardless of the janet reno or the atf or any of that sh*t those people DID NOT deserve to die.  you can't justify it by saying 'waco' ruby ridge sh*t either, because those were horrible crimes but two wrongs DO NOT make it right. 

[MB_722]

gimmicks 

[Hereford]

Whose gimmick is kc?

And who else here would say I am a 'terrorist sympathizer'? 

[Stormspirit]

i dont think we can take down our government with violence, self sustainability and self defense is probably the best option.

[The Showstoppa]

McVeigh was a punk bitch...if he was in some "war against the government" he should have attacked armed personnel, not a daycare center and a building full of admin people.  Those defending him are sickening.  And anyone who knows my posts, knows I am much further right than most of this board, but to label this clown as some type of hero is idiotic.  And don't insult the incident at Ruby Ridge as being remotely related to this dead piece of shit.

[Hugo Chavez]

wow, this thread went to shit.

[Deicide]

Jews...all their fault.

[BM OUT]

McVeigh was a punk bitch...if he was in some "war against the government" he should have attacked armed personnel, not a daycare center and a building full of admin people.  Those defending him are sickening.  And anyone who knows my posts, knows I am much further right than most of this board, but to label this clown as some type of hero is idiotic.  And don't insult the incident at Ruby Ridge as being remotely related to this dead piece of shit.

The events were not related,the events at Ruby Ridge and WACO are what caused McVaeighs rage at the government.By the way,McVeigh a punk bitch?The guy served his country and defended it in the military which is 1000000 times more then that gutless coward Obama has EVER done.

[24KT]

Oh, I have one already, thanks.

The kids were an unfortunate effect. Collateral damage. If you are going to use them as your defense then you have to condemn every military action since the beginning of history. I love how 'the kids' are always mentioned.... Very minor part of the whole picture.

The ATF is an illegitimate agency.

From what I understand, no one from the ATF died that day, ...they were all off doing training exercises.

You may consider them an illegitimate agency, but what about the civilians who worked in the building,
or the toddlers in the day care centre? Do you consider them illegitimate people?

[The Showstoppa]

The events were not related,the events at Ruby Ridge and WACO are what caused McVaeighs rage at the government.By the way,McVeigh a punk bitch?The guy served his country and defended it in the military which is 1000000 times more then that gutless coward Obama has EVER done.

Billy, I agree about the Obama comparison.  Can't stand the blowhard.  But, McVeigh killing a bunch of kids and office workers does make him a punk bitch.  I don't care that he served, so did I, and the Ruby Ridge episode pissed me off.....and later the WACO fiasco did too, after I read more about it BUT to go and kill a bunch of kids and people just trying to work to take care of their families makes him a scumbag in my book.  Like I said, if he was sooo outraged why not take it out on ATF agents, etc....?  Because he knew there was no resistance and he took the easy way.  Glad the idiot is roasting in hell where he belongs.