Author Topic: WESTPOINT, Iraq Veteran,Officer kicked out of military for Announcing "I AM GAY"  (Read 9337 times)

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He is being fired for either being too dumb, or too arrogant and confrontational. He knows full well what the rules are. The rule is "Don't ask, don't tell". There is no rational reason why he could not have answered the inquiry with saying that was non of the interviewer's business. He could have said that he didn't care/intend to address that question/policy. In that way, he does not deny, untruthfully, his own sexual orientation, AND he does not make it a confrontational issue that he obviously has an agenda to have changed. What Choi did was, purposely, out himself, knowing full well what this would result in. I don't give a rat's azz what his orientation is. I do give a rat's azz about someone aggressively trying to rub their orientation in my face. The current policy deals with behaviour, not orientation. It seems to me that is the best way to deal with this contentious issue. Long answer short, Choi CHOSE to fire himself. He could have served 20 years and never said a word.

Hmmmm....doesn't the DoD have a homosexual conduct policy, in which homosexual conduct is spelled out, in no uncertain terms? Isn't there some kind of statement page, in which the reader has 10 basic items, stating that the applicant recognizes certain parts of the DoD policy rules?

I believe they have to initial each blank by those items and sign their names on the dotted line at the end.

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I get it, you don't like gay people. That's fine.

Yeah... this statement really nails it  ::)

Nothing like some lame sociological study that was never even verified to exist to prove a point  ::)

So tell me what is the subject of your MA? I really hope that with your research standards it's not an exact science.

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Yeah... this statement really nails it  ::)

Nothing like some lame sociological study that was never even verified to exist to prove a point  ::)

So tell me what is the subject of your MA? I really hope that with your research standards it's not an exact science.

I study linguistics. There is much debate as to whether it is a exact science, my branch, Syntax is claimed to be but I am skeptical.
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I study linguistics. There is much debate as to whether it is a exact science, my branch, Syntax is claimed to be but I am skeptical.

Well I don't know much about linguistics but Sociological studies are random at best, they got so many variables that can't be accounted out that it's just silly to even try and form an absolute law and conclusion from them, now add that your study was never even confirmed to exist and you get nothing but a long and meaningless post.

Now you see what I'm talking about?

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Well I don't know much about linguistics but Sociological studies are random at best, they got so many variables that can't be accounted out that it's just silly to even try and form an absolute law and conclusion from them, now add that your study was never even confirmed to exist and you get nothing but a long and meaningless post.

Now you see what I'm talking about?

I didn't cite that as an 'absolute', merely as a counterexample. That is your conclusion. Social issues can never be resolved with absolutes. Gays in the military is not an issue I care about much. Our empire and overseas spending is, but it is interesting how such side issues as 'gays in the military' serve to distract from out bloated military budget, our empire of bases and engaging in wasteful wars overseas that drain finances and destroy lives.
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Coming to the conclusion that I care about "some queer" proves you just can't get the point so I won't waste the time.

You must.  Otherwise you wouldn't care what he thought of you in the shower.

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Not going to bother reading all this jibberish.  Little turd knew what he was doing when he "admitted" it.  Not news.

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Hmmmm....doesn't the DoD have a homosexual conduct policy, in which homosexual conduct is spelled out, in no uncertain terms? Isn't there some kind of statement page, in which the reader has 10 basic items, stating that the applicant recognizes certain parts of the DoD policy rules?

I believe they have to initial each blank by those items and sign their names on the dotted line at the end.

Oddly..yes.
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I didn't cite that as an 'absolute', merely as a counterexample. That is your conclusion. Social issues can never be resolved with absolutes. Gays in the military is not an issue I care about much. Our empire and overseas spending is, but it is interesting how such side issues as 'gays in the military' serve to distract from out bloated military budget, our empire of bases and engaging in wasteful wars overseas that drain finances and destroy lives.

So you don't mind using what is practically a lie as your counterexample?

An UNCONFIRMED "research"  ::)

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So you don't mind using what is practically a lie as your counterexample?

An UNCONFIRMED "research"  ::)

How you been, buddy?
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How you been, buddy?

Where have you been for so long? Did the super AIDS kicked in again?  :-*

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Where have you been for so long? Did the super AIDS kicked in again?  :-*

I beat AIDS like a cheap drum.
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IFBBwannaB

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I beat AIDS like a cheap drum.

I know , that's old news, but you haven't been yourself since you got Super Aidzzzzzz  ;D

Ohhh leave it be...it's a joke from another forum  :-\

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I know , that's old news, but you haven't been yourself since you got Super Aidzzzzzz  ;D

Ohhh leave it be...it's a joke from another forum  :-\

Damn, I really want to be part of it. Sometimes I feel as if our friendship is falling apart.
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Damn, I really want to be part of it. Sometimes I feel as if our friendship is falling apart.

It's not what it used to be  :'(

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It's not what it used to be  :'(

Word. You never cook me dinner or bring me flowers anymore.

It's the little things I miss the most.
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