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Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« on: May 25, 2009, 05:39:00 PM »


The question Micheal didn't have to answer at the end is here.

Q. How is cutting Israel loose, which is the only democracy in the Middle East, help that cause then, Michael?


A. I guess that I would have asked Mr. Rosenberg how could it possibly hurt America to have one less democracy in the world? As the Founders noted, America is in the business of developing and doing its best to perfect our own republican system. Our ability to do that is not in the least dependent on there being a single other democracy on earth. Indeed, our political elite's determination to install and protect other peoples' democracies always involves us in other peoples' wars and thereby retards our ability to maintain -- let alone perfect -- our liberties and equality of conditions at home. I do not know how many times it has to be said, but the Founders intended us to be the model of republicanism for the world; whether or not any other country followed our model was up to them, and if followed, it was up to that country -- without America's help -- to make the effort work.

I saw President Obama yesterday and noted that he said the Founders could not have known about the world we confront today, implying they and their ideas have no baring on how we conduct the business of the nation they created. President Obama clearly knows nothing about the Founders. America is in the disastrous fix it is today because our elite are rank interventionists, and the problems flowing from their interventionism were precisely predicted by the Founders that President Obama finds so irrelevant.

As troubling in yesterday's speech, President Obama appeared as something of a Black Woodrow Wilson, the man who also thought the Founders' irrelevant and started America on the road of relentless intervention overseas. Like the earlier White Wilson, President Obama in his speech agonized over how superior he and his morality are to all other Americans. We should all recall that Woodrow Wilson and his superior sense of morality brought America as close to fascism as it has ever been.

Overall, when a person becomes part of the U.S. governing elite it does not seem to matter whether one is Black (Obama or Powell) or White (Wilson or LBJ); male (Cheney) or female (H. Clinton); Democrat (Biden) or Republican (McCain), he or she automatically becomes an interventionist who is blessed with a morality that is superior to that of all other Americans, one which cares more about bayoneting foreigners into democracy than in shielding and developing republicanism at home. 

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 05:57:14 PM »
hahaha, Glenn thinks it's a new trend that we get in bed with the worst of the worst governments...  wow, got a newsflash or Glenn ::)

Also, that guy said Iran is on record as saying they intend on destroying America.  For a country that hasn't invaded another in ages, I'd like to see some proof of this?

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2009, 06:02:55 PM »
hahaha, Glenn thinks it's a new trend that we get in bed with the worst of the worst governments...  wow, got a newsflash or Glenn ::)

Also, that guy said Iran is on record as saying they intend on destroying America.  For a country that hasn't invaded another in ages, I'd like to see some proof of this?

Scheuer is a hardcore dude but I agree with a lot of what he says.
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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2009, 09:02:47 PM »
LOL

Shill vs Shill  :D

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2009, 09:20:20 PM »
Beck "one of the most honest people I have ever met."

LOL

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2009, 09:22:34 PM »

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2009, 09:29:30 PM »
I can't figure out who is crazier,  Sheuer or Beck

Why does Sheuer have to do his interview standing on a public sidewalk?

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2009, 09:30:31 PM »
LOL

Shill vs Shill  :D
true, I think you're right on this one... and that has me scratching my head a bit.  Motive?

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2009, 09:51:15 PM »
true, I think you're right on this one... and that has me scratching my head a bit.  Motive?

rile up some right wingers ... expose some patriots ... then keep going with the original plan.

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2009, 10:23:21 PM »
rile up some right wingers ... expose some patriots ... then keep going with the original plan.



Are you going to accuse everyone of being a conspirator when they bring up the truth? Who isnt disinformation agent? Anyone?

Do you have any proof behind your statment regarding Scheuer? Have you read any of his books? Read/listened to any of his other interviews?


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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2009, 10:27:10 PM »
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/08/our-good-friends-in-cia-not.html

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Maybe Xymphora is treading carefully after our revelations about the CIA Fakes, because the blog is now distancing itself from ex-FBI, 'Dog WhistleBlower' (can't hear it), Sibel Edmonds:

    "Edmonds sometimes makes me a bit nervous as she seems overly adept with the terms and arguments of conspiracy theory for someone who is supposed to have been a lowly FBI translator."

That move has become necessary for Xymphora -who is marketed with an image of a reasonable, impartial analyst. Nevertheless, despite covering his ass with that comment, the blog goes on to fully endorse the spin I call "our good friends in the CIA":

    "Is she part of the battle in Washington between the Bush Administration enablers involved in the drugs/arms business who don't mind directly or indirectly supporting al Qaeda if it is good for business, and those old-fashioned types who still consider that dealing with American enemies is treason?"

This is the heavily, slickly-promoted notion that within the CIA (and FBI) are loyal, patriotic Americans (Edmonds, Scheuer, McGovern, et al) outraged by the Neocon coup. They are fighting the Neocons. They are on our side.

Rubbish. This whole thing is a CIA deception.

Here's news, if you didn't know: intelligence agencies don't just manipulate external events, they manipulate the image of themselves that is presented in mainstream and alternative media.

These deceptions also enable them to place operatives who present with a cover of being "outcasts" from the system.

The alternative media is ridden with ex-FBI, ex-CIA, ex-NSA, ex-MI5 people who are on "our side". It's all total BS.

Back to Xymphora, spinning the lie some more:

    "We should see the battle concerning the lies created by friends of Israel to trick Americans into the attack on Iraq, and the whole AIPAC scandal, as part of the same larger war."

He's right. The AIPAC scandal, the dancing Israeli's of 9/11, and the CIA-FBI-NSA-MI5 whistleblowers are indeed part of the same war.

The same phantom, non-existent war.

It's a comfort-blanket fairytale. A 9/11 deception.

We have no good friends in the CIA.

Not now. Not ever. Never.

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2009, 10:28:13 PM »


Are you going to accuse everyone of being a conspirator when they bring up the truth? Who isnt disinformation agent? Anyone?

Do you have any proof behind your statment regarding Scheuer? Have you read any of his books? Read/listened to any of his other interviews?


CIA agents are flagged by default.  Seems like a popular mistrust.  I dunno why that would be :D

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2009, 10:51:06 PM »
CIA agents are flagged by default.  Seems like a popular mistrust.  I dunno why that would be :D


lol

ok, I'm convinced. He's a disinfo agent. Maybe you and MB might might be one too.  :-\ Heck, maybe this whole political board was created on a bodybuilding site because RON is CIA and is gathering intel.  aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh :D

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Re: Michael Scheuer vs. Israeli Shill
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2009, 03:02:39 AM »

lol

ok, I'm convinced. He's a disinfo agent. Maybe you and MB might might be one too.  :-\ Heck, maybe this whole political board was created on a bodybuilding site because RON is CIA and is gathering intel.  aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh :D

Actually MB's dog is secretly spreading false information as well...
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