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Past Quotes Haunt Conservatives Stance on Sotomayor
« on: May 29, 2009, 08:58:12 AM »
Sotomayor's critics are up in arms over the fact that she has admitted that her ethnic background has an affect on her decision making process. Who does she think she is? Well, as it turns out, she probably thinks she's being very similar to Justice Sam Alito:

    ALITO: Senator, I tried to in my opening statement, I tried to provide a little picture of who I am as a human being and how my background and my experiences have shaped me and brought me to this point. ... And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position. [...]


    And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.


http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001783/

And, in a related way, the criticism over "empathy" fits the same "this-was-once-deemed-okay" mold. My experience teaches me that only robots lack empathy, and that most people value it. Yet, ever since President Barack Obama cited it as a focus of his, in his search for a replacement for Justice David Souter, the whole notion of "empathy" has been treated as an alien thing that threatens the sanctity of court decisions.

That's weird! In July of 1991, "empathy" was one of the major selling points presented at the nomination of Justice Clarence Thomas! As President George H. W. Bush said:

    I have followed this man's career for some time, and he has excelled in everything that he has attempted. He is a delightful and warm, intelligent person who has great empathy and a wonderful sense of humor. He's also a fiercely independent thinker with an excellent legal mind, who believes passionately in equal opportunity for all Americans. He will approach the cases that come before the Court with a commitment to deciding them fairly, as the facts and the law require.
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Re: Past Quotes Haunt Conservatives Stance on Sotomayor
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2009, 10:49:55 AM »
Sotomayor's critics are up in arms over the fact that she has admitted that her ethnic background has an affect on her decision making process. Who does she think she is? Well, as it turns out, she probably thinks she's being very similar to Justice Sam Alito:

    ALITO: Senator, I tried to in my opening statement, I tried to provide a little picture of who I am as a human being and how my background and my experiences have shaped me and brought me to this point. ... And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position. [...]


    And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.


http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001783/

And, in a related way, the criticism over "empathy" fits the same "this-was-once-deemed-okay" mold. My experience teaches me that only robots lack empathy, and that most people value it. Yet, ever since President Barack Obama cited it as a focus of his, in his search for a replacement for Justice David Souter, the whole notion of "empathy" has been treated as an alien thing that threatens the sanctity of court decisions.

That's weird! In July of 1991, "empathy" was one of the major selling points presented at the nomination of Justice Clarence Thomas! As President George H. W. Bush said:

    I have followed this man's career for some time, and he has excelled in everything that he has attempted. He is a delightful and warm, intelligent person who has great empathy and a wonderful sense of humor. He's also a fiercely independent thinker with an excellent legal mind, who believes passionately in equal opportunity for all Americans. He will approach the cases that come before the Court with a commitment to deciding them fairly, as the facts and the law require.

So are we to presume you were in favor of Alito & Thomas?

And where did Alito and Thomas ever say that their experiences better equippted them to make decisions than other racial groups??? 

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Re: Past Quotes Haunt Conservatives Stance on Sotomayor
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2009, 01:00:47 PM »
So are we to presume you were in favor of Alito & Thomas?

And where did Alito and Thomas ever say that their experiences better equippted them to make decisions than other racial groups??? 

And the democrats attempted to destroy both of them,now they cry like babies when someone DARE question one of the Mesiahs picks.Talk about two faced double talkers.

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Re: Past Quotes Haunt Conservatives Stance on Sotomayor
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2009, 01:08:41 PM »
And the democrats attempted to destroy both of them,now they cry like babies when someone DARE question one of the Mesiahs picks.Talk about two faced double talkers.

Notice how Benny Buttboy never responds to facts.

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Re: Past Quotes Haunt Conservatives Stance on Sotomayor
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2009, 01:32:12 PM »
Notice how Benny Buttboy never responds to facts.

You don't have any facts.  You have YOUR perception.  Her quote of saying she is better at making decisions than someone else is fine with me.  Perhaps she is better at making some decisions firstly being a woman and secondly being latina.  I would think that's rather obvious.  It seems you are stuck on this point though and why is that exactly?

Please don't give me the double speak about "well if a white guy said that" rubbish.  That is your only retort to this and it's weak at best.
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Re: Past Quotes Haunt Conservatives Stance on Sotomayor
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2009, 01:40:28 PM »
You don't have any facts.  You have YOUR perception.  Her quote of saying she is better at making decisions than someone else is fine with me.  Perhaps she is better at making some decisions firstly being a woman and secondly being latina.  I would think that's rather obvious.  It seems you are stuck on this point though and why is that exactly?

Please don't give me the double speak about "well if a white guy said that" rubbish.  That is your only retort to this and it's weak at best.

Why is that weak at best.Trent Lott made ONE statement in a dinner for Strom Thurmond ,and it didnt even come close to as provacative as her statement was, and his committe chair was stripped of him.To act as though the double standard doesnt exist is having your head in the sand.

Again,Clarence Thomas had an even MORE impressive life story then she does,he is African American and the libs went after him like wild animals.Why shouldnt conservatives at least have objections,or attempt to get answers on her statement?