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It must be killing Fedor...
« on: March 30, 2010, 11:28:31 AM »
...that he doesn't have a UFC belt ;D



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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 01:13:01 PM »
He has most likely realized that it is better to 'not want one' then it is to be unable to win one :)
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 07:32:38 PM »
Or it's killing the UFC HW Champions that they aren't considered the best in the world.
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 09:10:50 PM »
as brock lesner would say, those are "make-believe" belts  :D
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 12:41:14 AM »
Quote from: marty31672 on March 30, 2010, 09:10:50 PM
as brock lesner would say, those are "make-believe" belts  :D

You're wife is make believe Bluto. 
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2010, 01:53:17 AM »
fedor was amazing when he fought in pride, but that was so long ago.  He just hasn't looked good to me the last couple times I've seen him fight and he's been up against some canned hams for awhile now.  I think he likes his legacy being what it is, but I believe he would lose if he came to the UFC.  He'd beat a few guys for sure, but I think he'd lose to Brock, maybe Shane Carwin at this point, and maybe even some other guys.  Fedor is pretty small for a HW.
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2010, 06:40:49 AM »
Fedor is not only a small HW these days, but you have skilled guys like Cain Velazquez and Dos Santos that are a lean 230-250, not a chubby 230-250.
Not to mention the freaks like Brock and Carwin. Fedor was way ahead of his time during his PRIDE days. Times have changed in the HW division.
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 02:58:15 PM »
Quote from: WeightPSHR on April 01, 2010, 06:40:49 AM
Fedor is not only a small HW these days, but you have skilled guys like Cain Velazquez and Dos Santos that are a lean 230-250, not a chubby 230-250.
Not to mention the freaks like Brock and Carwin. Fedor was way ahead of his time during his PRIDE days. Times have changed in the HW division.

those guys arent really what i would consider skilled....they are putting black belts on anybody who can win a fight nowadays...

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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 03:47:30 PM »
Quote from: WeightPSHR on April 01, 2010, 06:40:49 AM
Fedor is not only a small HW these days, but you have skilled guys like Cain Velazquez and Dos Santos that are a lean 230-250, not a chubby 230-250.
Not to mention the freaks like Brock and Carwin. Fedor was way ahead of his time during his PRIDE days. Times have changed in the HW division.


That's a silly observation. Is Big Country Nelson now Lee Labrada? Does BJ Penn have the physique of a Clay Guida or any of the lesser LW's that are diced up? Did Fedor's physique matter in his 30 wins? Of course not. Plus, you have a guy like JDS who is the same weight as Fedor+ an inch or two taller. Cro Cop is still fighting, Noguerra is still fighting and so are cans like Paul Buentello. The only HW fighter in the world who has such a tremendous physique that he is automatically at an advanatage over everyone is Lesnar-- with a whopping total of 5 professional fights coming off of a life threatening illness. The fact of the matter is that Fedor has been outsized by the majority of his opponents at HW, and he has made mincemeat out of all of them. Until these guys actually throw down, or Fedor loses, his physique doesn't mean jack shit and neither does anyone elses. 
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2010, 04:16:11 PM »
I think Fedor is fine.  I think it is worse for the UFC champ not being recognized as the best in world and Fedor is.
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2010, 10:24:02 AM »
For all the UFC guy's  ;D



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WAMMA MEN's RANKINGS
November, 2009


Heavyweight

WAMMA Undisputed Heavyweight Champion
Fedor Emelianenko
1     Brock Lesnar
2     Frank Mir
3     Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4     Shane Carwin
5     Alistair Overeem
6     Randy Couture
7     Junior Dos Santos
8     Brett Rogers
9     Cain Velasquez
10     Fabricio Werdum
Also Receiving Votes     Andrei Arlovski
    Ben Rothwell
    Gabriel Gonzaga


Light Heavyweight
1     Lyoto Machida
2     Mauricio Rua
3     Rashad Evans
4     Gergard Mousasi
5     Quinton Jackson
6     Anderson Silva
7     Forrest Griffin
8 (tie)     Thiago Silva
8 (tie)     Rich Franklin
10     Chuck Liddell
Also Receiving Votes     Keith Jardine
    Antonio Rogerio Noguiera
    Wanderlei Silva
    Luiz Cane


Middleweight
1     Anderson Silva
2 (tie)     Dan Henderson
2 (tie)     Nathan Marquardt
4     Vitor Belfort
5     Yushin Okami
6     Demian Maia
7     Robbie Lawler
8     Jorge Santiago
9     Jake Shields
10     Yoshihiro Akiyama
Also Receiving Votes     Chael Sonnen


Welterweight
1     Georges St. Pierre
2     Jon Fitch
3     Thiago Alves
4     Jake Shields
5     Josh Koscheck
6     Matt Hughes
7     Mike Swick
8     Paul Thiago
9     Matt Serra
10     Carlos Condit
Also Receiving Votes     Paul Daley
    Martin Kampmann
    Nick Diaz
    Karo Parisyn


Lightweight

WAMMA Undisputed Lightweight Champion
Shinya Aoki
1     B.J.Penn
2     Eddie Alvarez
3     Diego Sanchez
4     Tatsuya Kawajiri
5 (tie)     Frankie Edgar 
5 (tie)     Ken Florian
7     Joachim Hansen
8     Gray Maynard
9     Sean Sherk
10     Gesias Calvancate
Also Receiving Votes     Tyson Griffin
    Mizuto Hirota


Featherweight
1     Mike Thomas Brown
2     Urijah Faber
3     Jose Aldo
4     Hatsu Hioki
5     Wagnney Fabiano
6     Takeshi Inoue
7     Leonard Garcia
8     Bibiano Fernandes
9     Rafael Assuncao
10     Masakazu Imanari
Also Receiving Votes     Joe Warren
    Norifumi Yamamoto
    Diego Nunes


Bantamweight
1     Brian Bowles
2     Miguel Torres
3     Masakatsu Ueda
4     Takeya Mizugaki
5     Dominick Cruz
6     Joseph Benavidez
7     Akitoshi Tamura
8     Damacio Page
9     Will Ribeiro
10     Jeff Curran
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 11:03:17 AM »
Quote from: gmflex on April 03, 2010, 10:24:02 AM
For all the UFC guy's  ;D



The Goal: to recognize the very best MMA athletes in each weight division, without regard to promotional affiliation.
 

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WAMMA MEN's RANKINGS
November, 2009


Heavyweight

WAMMA Undisputed Heavyweight Champion
Fedor Emelianenko
1     Brock Lesnar
2     Frank Mir
3     Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
4     Shane Carwin
5     Alistair Overeem
6     Randy Couture
7     Junior Dos Santos
8     Brett Rogers
9     Cain Velasquez
10     Fabricio Werdum
Also Receiving Votes     Andrei Arlovski
    Ben Rothwell
    Gabriel Gonzaga


Light Heavyweight
1     Lyoto Machida
2     Mauricio Rua
3     Rashad Evans
4     Gergard Mousasi
5     Quinton Jackson
6     Anderson Silva
7     Forrest Griffin
8 (tie)     Thiago Silva
8 (tie)     Rich Franklin
10     Chuck Liddell
Also Receiving Votes     Keith Jardine
    Antonio Rogerio Noguiera
    Wanderlei Silva
    Luiz Cane


Middleweight
1     Anderson Silva
2 (tie)     Dan Henderson
2 (tie)     Nathan Marquardt
4     Vitor Belfort
5     Yushin Okami
6     Demian Maia
7     Robbie Lawler
8     Jorge Santiago
9     Jake Shields
10     Yoshihiro Akiyama
Also Receiving Votes     Chael Sonnen


Welterweight
1     Georges St. Pierre
2     Jon Fitch
3     Thiago Alves
4     Jake Shields
5     Josh Koscheck
6     Matt Hughes
7     Mike Swick
8     Paul Thiago
9     Matt Serra
10     Carlos Condit
Also Receiving Votes     Paul Daley
    Martin Kampmann
    Nick Diaz
    Karo Parisyn


Lightweight

WAMMA Undisputed Lightweight Champion
Shinya Aoki
1     B.J.Penn
2     Eddie Alvarez
3     Diego Sanchez
4     Tatsuya Kawajiri
5 (tie)     Frankie Edgar 
5 (tie)     Ken Florian
7     Joachim Hansen
8     Gray Maynard
9     Sean Sherk
10     Gesias Calvancate
Also Receiving Votes     Tyson Griffin
    Mizuto Hirota


Featherweight
1     Mike Thomas Brown
2     Urijah Faber
3     Jose Aldo
4     Hatsu Hioki
5     Wagnney Fabiano
6     Takeshi Inoue
7     Leonard Garcia
8     Bibiano Fernandes
9     Rafael Assuncao
10     Masakazu Imanari
Also Receiving Votes     Joe Warren
    Norifumi Yamamoto
    Diego Nunes


Bantamweight
1     Brian Bowles
2     Miguel Torres
3     Masakatsu Ueda
4     Takeya Mizugaki
5     Dominick Cruz
6     Joseph Benavidez
7     Akitoshi Tamura
8     Damacio Page
9     Will Ribeiro
10     Jeff Curran
Also Receiving Votes     Rani Yahya
    Manny Tapia




Are you kidding me????? As of November 2009? Nice try ::) :o
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2010, 04:50:15 PM »
that is there last official ranking... ::)
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2010, 10:56:46 PM »
Quote from: gmflex on April 03, 2010, 04:50:15 PM
that is there last official ranking... ::)

Are you telling me that fighting Werdum validates Fedor's #1 status?

Besides...just because these are the most "current" rankings doesn't make them accurate.

Fedor needs to stop fighting UFC rejects. ;D
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2010, 08:39:53 AM »
According to that list, 7 of the top 10 HW fighters are in the UFC, so if that list is accurate about Fedor being #1, then it must mean that the UFC has the best HW division of all fight orgs. :o
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2010, 12:33:05 PM »
Quote from: chaos on April 04, 2010, 08:39:53 AM
According to that list, 7 of the top 10 HW fighters are in the UFC, so if that list is accurate about Fedor being #1, then it must mean that the UFC has the best HW division of all fight orgs. :o

And to make Fedor's #1 staus even more questionable is that he is fighting a guy that couldn't even cut it in the UFC.
Hmmmmmmm
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2010, 05:17:05 PM »
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Re: It must be killing Fedor...
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2010, 12:34:11 PM »
Quote from: gmflex on April 04, 2010, 05:17:05 PM


That's actually scary.  Kinda looks like a lion/tiger when they go from cute to killing machine... :-\
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