Why Jay can regain the Olympia title

[io856]

  No, because muscle mass also includes intramuscular fat and water. Lean muscle mass is what you have when you lose the fat inside your muscles and the water by cutting carbs. The fat and water inside the muscle is usually included when you say "muscle mass", but that doesen't look like contest muscle. Lean muscle mass is only the contractile proein part of the muscle - the actin and myosin.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Can I get an autograph?

[suckmymuscle]

Can I get an autograph?

  Sure.

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[The_Hammer]

  30 lbs of lean muscle mass?

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Cutler has the worst conditioning of any Mr. Olympia since the 70's.  The guy thinks he looks great in the 270's, but realistically if he were to match Victor's good conditioning he's be about 15-20 lbs lighter.

Victor>Jay.

[Alex23]

dont you think "lean muscle mass" is redundant?
30lbs of MASS, could include "non lean mass" (aka fat mass or bone mass, etc)
but if you say "30lbs of muscle mass"... then saying 'lean' relly isnt necessary...

QFT. Your internet expenditure is paying off. You are getting smarter.

Congratulation Tyler.

[suckmymuscle]

Cutler has the worst conditioning of any Mr. Olympia since the 70's.  The guy thinks he looks great in the 270's, but realistically if he were to match Victor's good conditioning he's be about 15-20 lbs lighter.

Victor>Jay.

  Fail. Jason carries more lean muscle mass than Victor. Anyone with two eyes and a working brain can realize that...

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[Alex23]

  Fail. Jason carries more lean muscle mass than Victor. Anyone with two eyes and a working brain can realize that...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Another epic reality presented here.

Jay = overbashed and underrated. He will win this year.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

Granted, this yrs Olympia lineup may be the toughest in history.
Here is my breakdown of my Jay can get by the other top guys and take back the title.
* Assume that Jay comes in ripped ,round and full, ok. If not , he loses.

Jay vs Dexter - Dexter is incredible, but in the Olympia, size rules. Jay has a lot more width in the upper body than Dexter and has better calfs and thigh shape. Jay's back can now hang with the best and is an asset for him.

Jay vs Victor - Victor has all the physical tools needed to win the Olympia. I just think that Jay will be harder and more separated than Victor. Jay has shown more sheer muscularity , more often then Victor.
BOTH men are close in physique and for me it comes down to which one wants it more and is willing to come in ripped and shredded. My money is on Jay here comming in more ripped than Vic.

Jay vs Kai - I honestly think that Kai has the best shot to beat the other top guys , if he shows up in ASC winning condition. Jay needs to be bigger and thicker than Kai to beat him, which I believe he can be.
If Kai comes in ripped with a few lbs of quality muscle added, it may be his show to lose. I am betting that Kai won't be able to do that so soon after the ASC recent win. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in the OLympia and have it come down to the posing round against Kai. Jay needs to nail it for the prejudging and put him away then. I honestly feel thata Jay can beat Kai in most of the mandatory poses, but, Kai is light yrs ahead on the posing routine and could light it up , steal the title with a great show if it was close.


Jay vs Heath - I love the physique of Phil Heath and am a huge fan . BUT, if Jay comes in ripped and full he is just too wide for heath to deal with. End of story.

Jay vs Wolf - Wolf has the width and structure but is weak in the calfs compared to Jay.
I have yet to see Wolf with the muscle density that Jay has shown at his best either.

 

[The_Hammer]

Someone post pictures of Victor and Jay from the '07 Olympia then tell me who is the better bodybuilder.

Jay should be very afraid.

[Sherief Shalaby]

after ronnie retired it has become open.. anyone can be mr. olympia.. till one day they find another guy from the same type of ronnie or dorian to give him the title when he deserves and when he doesnt!!

[The Wizard of Truth]

How can one be "shredded" and "ripped", without having a single VEIN in one's entire upper torso? You guys who think Jay is the shit, are so delusional. He wouldn't even place in the top 15 if this were 1996.

True
Jay has seen his better days pass him a few years ago
He will be lucky to come top 5
Wolk,Kai,Phil,and the black asshole are far far better then him

[suckmymuscle]

  I actually prefer Victor over Jay - Phil Heath's structure is too flawed and his muscularity too pathetic for him to win the Olympia -, but when it comes to sheer muscle development, Jay is currently on a league of his own, far above all of his rivals. The only other guy on Jay's league in terms of muscular development was Ronnie, and he's retired. Jay should win if he comes in dry and controls his midsection.

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[Ex Coelis]

Jason is over the hill