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New York Times Poll Showing 72% Support for Obama's Health Care Plan Was Stacked With Obama...
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:32:40 AM by Sub-Driver

New York Times Poll Showing 72% Support for Obama's Health Care Plan Was Stacked With Obama Supporters Wednesday, June 24, 2009 By Christopher Neefus

(CNSNews.com) - A New York Times/CBS News poll released Saturday that showed broad bipartisan support for President Obama’s health care reform, over-sampled Obama voters compared to McCain voters, critics say.

The poll, administered June 12-16, found that 72 percent of respondents favored the creation of a government health-insurance plan that would compete with private insurers.

It also said 50 percent of respondents thought the government would do a better job providing medical coverage than private insurers, up from 30 percent in 2007; and that 59 percent thought the government would be better at holding down costs, up from 47 percent two years ago.

But critics including pollster Kellyanne Conway say the results are inaccurate because they are heavily skewed toward those who voted for Obama in the 2008 presidential election.


In addition, other indicators point toward a repeat of the defeat Hillary Clinton's proposed government-run faced in the early ‘90’s.

Out of 895 respondents, 24 percent were Republicans, 38 percent Democrats, and 38 percent were independents, according to a June 20 release from CBS News. While the release says the sampling was conducted at random, those numbers are significantly below the 32.6 percent who identify themselves as Republican according to a May survey from the nonpartisan Rasmussen Reports.


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More lies and distortions by the left. 


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yes because the new york times have been sooo objective


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"Out of 895 respondents, 24 percent were Republicans, 38 percent Democrats, and 38 percent were independents"


So the polling accurately reflected the actual parties of the population?

If you polled 50% repubs and 50% dems, obama would lose every poll.

33, I'd expect this kind of article from BILLY or TONY, but you have a law degree.  Every poll is going to interview more obama than mccain voters because 53% of voters chose obama, with 46% choosing Mccain.

Also, Rasmussen = "nonpartisan"?  Come on, they're as nonpartisan as a keith Olbermann circle jerk.

And your source?  CNS news?

Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission.



Finally, the last nail in this article.  The 'pollster' =
Kellyanne Conway (b. January 20, 1967) is a Republican strategist and pollster.
She's got quite the ongoing feud with Keith Olbermann on his show.  

Also, this genius pollster PREDICTED McCain would upset Obama in the general election.  How'd that one work out? ;)



33, I love ya bro, but you gotta come up with something better than CNS citing rasmussen citing a lone repub operative pollster at war with the left.

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The poll means nothing.The ONLY question to ask is this.Do you want to keep your health care or do you want the government to give you health care.Because THATS the choice.Now,considering the government can fuck up a wet dream on a rainy day,I douby ANYONE wants them controlling their health care.If the dems get their way,thats the choice.

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NYTIMES' POLL SHOWS AMERICANS FAVORING NATIONALIZING HEALTHCARE: 68% VOTED FOR OBAMA

AMERICAN POWER:

The lead headline is about a NYT/CBS News Poll, trumpeting “Wide Support for Government-Run Health.” The lead paragraph:

Americans overwhelmingly support substantial changes to the health care system and are strongly behind [72%] one of the most contentious proposals

Congress is considering, a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.BUT, according to the actual poll data, of the 73% of respondents who said they voted in 2008 only 34% voted for McCain and 66% for Obama. The actual vote was 48% McCain. So, 29% of McCain voters ignored by the poll must not be Americans ...

It's not just the horribly flawed sampling. The question wording on some of these questions is a disaster - total push polling!

THIS REALLY MEANS ON 3/4 OF OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS LIKE HIS HEALTHCARE PLAN; THEREFORE IT'S DOA.


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33, I'd expect this kind of article from BILLY or TONY, but you have a law degree.  Every poll is going to interview more obama than mccain voters because 53% of voters chose obama, with 46% choosing Mccain.

dont lump me in with the likes of you, you numb nut fuck i dont spin, i dont intentionally mislead, i dont intentionally leave off sources...you do

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when the polls show obama is slipping in approval to 58% or his healthcare plan is only embraced by X% of people, it's meaningful.

Because it's matched up against an identical polled group from last month, the month before, etc.


This repub operative, citing an outlier poll and embraced by a media group who admits on their 'about us' page their goal of pulling hard right.... they would like to change the base numbers.

This would mean all polls up to now are meaningless and no longer serve to tell us when Obama's numbers are slipping.

They are slipping.  But when you start a thread conveying "mainstream polls are worthless" then follow criticism of that with "well, mainstream polls prove my point here..."



The majority of voters aren't republicans.  So the majority of people polled won't be repubs.

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you numb nut fuck

the anger is back.

how did you sleep?  Did you dream of that bad man again? 

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dont lump me in with the likes of you, you numb nut fuck i dont spin, i dont intentionally mislead, i dont intentionally leave off sources...you do

240 ALWAYS does this.The guy posted that Rush used a teleprompter in his speech that drew all the attetion.He has NEVER shown ANY proof because Rush DIDNT use a teleprompter.He lies and throws out bullshit all the time[how many Palin things has he posted that have been proven lies],then ,when hes caught,he just moves on to the next attack or says something sarcastic.He is the type of kid who his ass beat on the playground everyday at school.The little wise cracking bitch ,who couldnt fight his way out of a paper bag, and then would run and tell on you to the teacher after you gave him a smack in the mouth.

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The little wise cracking bitch

lol meltdown.  settle down, back off the halotestin.  I can always tell when youre running a cycle because you go from mildly annoyed to outright violent.

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lol meltdown.  settle down, back off the halotestin.  I can always tell when youre running a cycle because you go from mildly annoyed to outright violent.

Got any proof yet Rush used a teleprompter?Got any proof yet Palins baby isnt heres?Got any proof yet that Palin has ethics problems?Got any proof yet trooper gate will end Palins career?Got any proof that using the term brown bag is racist?

I wouldnt waste my time with halotest,but YOU need some because you have the test levels[and breast size] of a 13 year old school girl.

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the anger is back.

how did you sleep?  Did you dream of that bad man again? 
way to not address the points...you spin intentionally, you mislead intentionally, you leave off sources intentionally do you not?

again 240 you bring all the shit on yourself by being such a tard and obama butt plug...maybe you should go post on one of your gimmick accounts for a while again...samson seems to get alot of laughs

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maybe you should go post on one of your gimmick accounts for a while again...samson seems to get alot of laughs

LOL meltdown @ incorrect accusation of gimmicks.
Samson, REALLY?  I could see accusing me of being someone else, but SAMSON?  LMAO... you're clueless.

it's okay, I don't blame you for calling names.  I'd br frustrated too, trying to defend the positions you take.

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LOL meltdown @ incorrect accusation of gimmicks.
Samson, REALLY?  I could see accusing me of being someone else, but SAMSON?  LMAO... you're clueless.

it's okay, I don't blame you for calling names.  I'd br frustrated too, trying to defend the positions you take.
you protest to much 240 me thinks youre hiding something....lol pick a topic 240 and lets see if you can win a debate...