Cleansing The Hate From Within

[Dos Equis]

what the people are saying here is jag posted that article and spews out the same type of hate that obama condemns in that article.  now posting an article doesn't mean you agree with everything in it so maybe jag was just posting it as an informative article.  but somehow i think she agrees with it as long as it excludes groups that she hates.  that's why people want her to explain how loco took her posts out of context.

Correct. 

[Hugo Chavez]

What are we really talking about here BB?  There is the kind of hate where people are actually persecuted for their beliefs with the end intent of denying, limiting or outright eliminating of the targeted system.  And then there is hate as a common expression for dislike.  I hate my neighbors, they're always having loud parties.  I hate people who sit on gym equipment talking on their cell phones.  I fucking hate Glenn Beck, his show sucks ass.  etc...

So when Jag says something like, "I FVCKING HATE DELUSIONAL EVANGELICALS" are you saying she's out to persecute Evangelicals? or just saying they suck and she really dislikes them?  I really don't give a crap if she's saying they suck but for this whole complaint you all got going to really matter, you must be saying Jag's out to persecute, deny, limit or eliminate Evangelicals.

I hate Evangelicals, I'll say it.  But I think they have the right to say and believe whatever the hell they like.  I just don't have to like it and I'll be honest, I hate it.  But I'm not out to persecute them seriously over it.  So what's up, how do you all figure that's where Jag was headed?  I'm not siding with Jag, it's more just the issue that raised questions for me.  She should have responded to questions.

[Dos Equis]

What are we really talking about here BB?  There is the kind of hate where people are actually persecuted for their beliefs with the end intent of denying, limiting or outright eliminating the targeted system.  And then there is hate as a common expression for dislike.  I hate my neighbors, they're always having loud parties.  I hate people who sit on gym equipment talking on their cell phones.  I fucking hate Glenn Beck, his show sucks ass.  etc...

So when Jag says something like, "I FVCKING HATE DELUSIONAL EVANGELICALS" are you saying she's out to persecute Evangelicals? or just saying they suck and she really dislikes them?  I really don't give a crap if she's saying they suck but for this whole complaint you all got going to really matter, you must be saying Jag's out to persecute, deny, limit or eliminate Evangelicals.

I hate Evangelicals, I'll say it.  But I think they have the right to say and believe whatever the hell they like.  I just don't have to like it and I'll be honest, I hate it.  But I'm not out to persecute them seriously over it.  So what's up, how do you all figure that's where Jag was headed?  I'm not siding with Jag, it's more just the issue that raised questions for me.  She's should have responded to questions.

We're talking about hypocrisy and extremism Hugo.  I created a "Left-Wing Hate Speech" thread that has comments and clips of liberals--who constantly preach "tolerance"--expressing hatred, wishing harm, committing crimes, and shouting down people with different viewpoints. 

Jag didn't just say she hates evangelicals.  She said "I will welcome the day that religion is forced underground!"  That is abject hypocritical censorship. 

She also said "I'll shoot the fvckers if I have to."  Why?  Because she disagrees with their beliefs.

I guess it's possible she was just using hyperbole, but it is consistent with the intolerant language she uses with strangers who happen to disagree with her:

Beach, ...hard work is keeping from beating you within an inch of your life!    That's hard work!

 

[Hugo Chavez]

well that's out of context a bit BB.  If evangelicals come after me, as in the subject of that thread, I'd defend myself too.  Evangelicals keep doing that kind of stuff, they'll be their own undoing.  forced underground will be what they brought on themselves just like any system that goes extremist nutso.

[Hugo Chavez]

plus Jag is just nuts, she loses her temper and says some of the craziest shit with her meltdowns.  She's probably ruined several keyboards frothing at the mouth.

[24KT]

well then I agree if Jag thinks or agrees with Obama that it should be unacceptable to hate a religion.  But I can't read her mind on that so I guess she will either speak on it or not.  I can see how one who is against racial hate would post that article even if they did believe it wasn't in the same arena as hating a religion.  Hard to find a politician who's not lumping it all together when talking on it.

I don't hate religion, or the religious. I certainly don't hate Christians. what I hate, absolutely outright detest,
are evangelicals. As I've stated and clarified many times in the past, I use the word in it's adjective form. I detest those who cannot keep their religion to themselves and insist on persecuting others with it, ...and I will welcome a time when they are forced to stop persecuting others and be made to conduct worship the way it was originally intended.

plus Jag is just nuts, she loses her temper and says some of the craziest shit with her meltdowns.  She's probably ruined several keyboards frothing at the mouth.

No, not from frothing at the mouth, ...but I have ruined a few from spilling Mountain Dew, Dr. Pepper, and cinnamon coffee on them. Now I make sure to slide the keyboard under the desk whenever I have liquids present.

[24KT]

well that's out of context a bit BB.  If evangelicals come after me, as in the subject of that thread, I'd defend myself too.  Evangelicals keep doing that kind of stuff, they'll be their own undoing.  forced underground will be what they brought on themselves just like any system that goes extremist nutso.

EXACTLY!

[Dos Equis]

well that's out of context a bit BB.  If evangelicals come after me, as in the subject of that thread, I'd defend myself too.  Evangelicals keep doing that kind of stuff, they'll be their own undoing.  forced underground will be what they brought on themselves just like any system that goes extremist nutso.

What's out of context?  That's what people have been asking her to explain in this thread.  This isn't about someone defending themselves against those dastardly evangelicals, it's about what she claims she will do to them, like shoot them. 

Being "forced underground" means obliterating the First Amendment, if it's "forced underground" in this country.

[Dos Equis]

plus Jag is just nuts, she loses her temper and says some of the craziest shit with her meltdowns.  She's probably ruined several keyboards frothing at the mouth.

Yep. 

[24KT]

What's out of context?  That's what people have been asking her to explain in this thread.  This isn't about someone defending themselves against those dastardly evangelicals, it's about what she claims she will do to them, like shoot them...if I have to 

Did you miss the part where I said if I have to, ...or did you just conveniently take the first part out of context? 

Being "forced underground" means obliterating the First Amendment, if it's "forced underground" in this country.

I said nothing about the First Amendment, however, since you mention it, understand this has nothing to do with it.
I didn't say no one should have the right to their religion or to peaceably assemble. Freedom of speech is not freedom to harass, persecute, or convert. I think if you were to encounter a few evangelical muslims, or a few evangelical satanists, you might have an altogether different stance on the matter.

Forced underground doesn't mean obliteration of the first amendment. It simply mean not mainstream.

[Dos Equis]

Did you miss the part where I said if I have to, ...or did you just conveniently take the first part out of context? 

I said nothing about the First Amendment, however, since you mention it, understand this has nothing to do with it.
I didn't say no one should have the right to their religion or to peaceably assemble. Freedom of speech is not freedom to harass, persecute, or convert. I think if you were to encounter a few evangelical muslims, or a few evangelical satanists, you might have an altogether different stance on the matter.

Forced underground doesn't mean obliteration of the first amendment. It simply mean not mainstream.

   Your statement has been quoted in it's entirety in this thread and others about ten times already.  The fact you would murder someone who wants to share a Bible verse with you makes you an extremist nut. 

Regarding the First Amendment, good thing you're not an American.  I've encountered plenty of people I disagree with, including a number of JWs.  Unlike you, I have no desire to murder any of them.

[24KT]

  Your statement has been quoted in it's entirety in this thread and others about ten times already.  The fact you would murder someone who wants to share a Bible verse with you makes you an extremist nut. 

Regarding the First Amendment, good thing you're not an American.  I've encountered plenty of people I disagree with, including a number of JWs.  Unlike you, I have no desire to murder any of them.

You twist more than Chubby Checker! 

[Dos Equis]

Jag's approach to evangelicals: 

[Deicide]

The worst thing about Evangelicals is the crap they believe is so manifestly wrong in an epistemic sense. It is so obviously bullshit, it baffles the mind.

[24KT]

The worst thing about Evangelicals is the crap they believe is so manifestly wrong in an epistemic sense. It is so obviously bullshit, it baffles the mind.

{LOL} Hey, ...it worked for the Spanish Inquisition. 

[loco]

Jag clearly said that she hates evangelicals, that she wants to murder them and to force them underground. 

Then she comes here and tries to teach us how to cleanse hate from within.   

I quoted her hate speech.  She said I took her hate speech out of context.

Many here asked her to explain how I took her hate speech out of context.  She refused to explain.

plus Jag is just nuts, she loses her temper and says some of the craziest shit with her meltdowns.  She's probably ruined several keyboards frothing at the mouth.

Thanks Hugo, for providing the only explanation!  That's very nice of you to defend Jag!   

[Deicide]

Jag clearly said that she hates evangelicals, that she wants to murder them and to force them underground. 

Then she comes here and tries to teach us how to cleanse hate from within.   

I quoted her hate speech.  She said I took her hate speech out of context.

Many here asked her to explain how I took her hate speech out of context.  She refused to explain.

Thanks Hugo, for providing the only explanation!  That's very nice of you to defend Jag!   

Te amo.

[loco]

Te amo.

Thanks Deicide, but that's not something a dude tells another dude.   

[Deicide]

Thanks Deicide, but that's not something a dude tells another dude.   

Yo Sé pero Yo soy la excepción.

[loco]

Yo Sé pero Yo soy la excepción.