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Obama. the Radical Son.
« on: July 10, 2009, 10:46:24 AM »
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A shocking article written by a young Barack Obama while he was at Columbia sheds some light on the president's real attitudes toward the United States and our system of "economic injustice."

Andy McCarthy of NRO's The Corner has the story that should have been front page news a year ago:


During the campaign, I wrote a piece called "Why Won't Obama Talk About Columbia? - The years he won't discuss may explain the Ayers tie he keeps lying about." So now, nearly six months into the Obama presidency, the mainstream media has finally done a bit of the candidate background reporting it declined to do during the campaign - other than in Wasilla - and whaddya know?  The New York Times unearthed a 1983 article called, "Breaking the War Mentality," that Columbia student Barack Obama wrote for a campus newspaper. The article shows that Obama dreaded American "militarism" and its "military-industrial interests," while effusing enthusiasm for the dangerously delusional nuclear-freeze movement.

Moreover, while indicating a preference for the political wisdom of reggae singer Peter Tosh over Ronald Reagan or Scoop Jackson, Obama bewailed the "narrow focus" of anti-militarism activists, worrying that they were targeting the "symptoms" rather than the real "disease," namely, America's underlying economic and political injustice.


Some of the things Obama wrote in this March 10, 1983 article or so out of the mainstream of even today's far left Democratic party that it is clear we have a radical leftist on his way to Moscow to negotiate our nuclear arsenal while threatening to bypass the senate altogether in order to make it stick.

Generally, the narrow focus of the [Nuclear] Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets.  When Peter Tosh sings that "everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice," one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself.

And that "disease" is American "militarism" and "economic injustice." Here's our president writing what McCarthy aptly calls "leftist gobbldygook:"

Indeed, the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, is that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy. What the members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part. By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience - that of war; But then, there are some things we shouldn't have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.


Is it possible that Obama moderated his views over the years and is now just a good old fashioned Democrat rather than a far left radical loon who quotes a reggae singer to make his case against the military?

I will allow that as we get older, we are not quite as sure of ourselves as we were in our youth. But I think Obama's policies bear out the idea that he despises capitalism, is distrustful of our military, and still harbors extraordinarily naive views of how the world works and America's role in it.

Absolutely remarkable that this article is just emerging now. If anything proved that the press failed to do its traditional job of vetting candidates for the presidency it is the discovery of this article which no doubt will be suppressed to some extent. Not so much to protect Obama but to hide the fact that journalists failed to do their job before the election.

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Re: Obama. the Radical Son.
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2009, 10:50:19 AM »
What about Obama's policies bear out the idea that he despises capitalism, is distrustful of our military, and still harbors extraordinarily naive views of how the world works and America's role in it?
Just curious.

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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2009, 11:51:34 AM »
What about Obama's policies bear out the idea that he despises capitalism, is distrustful of our military, and still harbors extraordinarily naive views of how the world works and America's role in it?
Just curious.

Agreed.

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2009, 12:00:35 PM »
Didn't have much to say about the role of the central bank in his college paper. Maybe he was kissing their ass back then as well?
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Re: Obama. the Radical Son.
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 12:09:39 PM »
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A shocking article written by a young Barack Obama while he was at Columbia sheds some light on the president's real attitudes toward the United States and our system of "economic injustice."

Andy McCarthy of NRO's The Corner has the story that should have been front page news a year ago:


During the campaign, I wrote a piece called "Why Won't Obama Talk About Columbia? - The years he won't discuss may explain the Ayers tie he keeps lying about." So now, nearly six months into the Obama presidency, the mainstream media has finally done a bit of the candidate background reporting it declined to do during the campaign - other than in Wasilla - and whaddya know?  The New York Times unearthed a 1983 article called, "Breaking the War Mentality," that Columbia student Barack Obama wrote for a campus newspaper. The article shows that Obama dreaded American "militarism" and its "military-industrial interests," while effusing enthusiasm for the dangerously delusional nuclear-freeze movement.

Moreover, while indicating a preference for the political wisdom of reggae singer Peter Tosh over Ronald Reagan or Scoop Jackson, Obama bewailed the "narrow focus" of anti-militarism activists, worrying that they were targeting the "symptoms" rather than the real "disease," namely, America's underlying economic and political injustice.


Some of the things Obama wrote in this March 10, 1983 article or so out of the mainstream of even today's far left Democratic party that it is clear we have a radical leftist on his way to Moscow to negotiate our nuclear arsenal while threatening to bypass the senate altogether in order to make it stick.

Generally, the narrow focus of the [Nuclear] Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets.  When Peter Tosh sings that "everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice," one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself.

And that "disease" is American "militarism" and "economic injustice." Here's our president writing what McCarthy aptly calls "leftist gobbldygook:"

Indeed, the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, is that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy. What the members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part. By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience - that of war; But then, there are some things we shouldn't have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.


Is it possible that Obama moderated his views over the years and is now just a good old fashioned Democrat rather than a far left radical loon who quotes a reggae singer to make his case against the military?

I will allow that as we get older, we are not quite as sure of ourselves as we were in our youth. But I think Obama's policies bear out the idea that he despises capitalism, is distrustful of our military, and still harbors extraordinarily naive views of how the world works and America's role in it.

Absolutely remarkable that this article is just emerging now. If anything proved that the press failed to do its traditional job of vetting candidates for the presidency it is the discovery of this article which no doubt will be suppressed to some extent. Not so much to protect Obama but to hide the fact that journalists failed to do their job before the election.


Good Find Alex. This paper is very revealing, combined with the article that someone posted a few days ago (Beach, James???) really gives us a look into who he REALLY is, what his attitudes are towards the U.S., capitalism, Marxism and his general feelings towards American society in general. He's been proven a liar when one compares what he said and "stood for" on the campaign trail (which was really 2+ years) and what he is revealing himself as now.

Scary shit.

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Re: Obama. the Radical Son.
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 12:29:05 PM »
Good Find Alex. This paper is very revealing, combined with the article that someone posted a few days ago (Beach, James???) really gives us a look into who he REALLY is, what his attitudes are towards the U.S., capitalism, Marxism and his general feelings towards American society in general. He's been proven a liar when one compares what he said and "stood for" on the campaign trail (which was really 2+ years) and what he is revealing himself as now.

Scary shit.


All seriousness, I find it scary too; given it's an article written by an undergrad kid but something isn't clicking here...

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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 02:05:20 PM »

All seriousness, I find it scary too; given it's an article written by an undergrad kid but something isn't clicking here...

Early thoughts such as these give a deep insight into the raw person that he was before he got political and learned to lie, double talk and hide his true feelings.

Like peeling an onion.

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 02:45:16 PM »
Its all been there. The media has to act as the honest broker and they failed. They chose not to ask easy questions about who influenced Obama. They ignored what guys like Wright or more importantly, Ayers, ment to Obama. They were frightened of Obama's ethnic make-up. They were willing to sell out in order to defeat Bush, who they despised. They felt betrayed by the lack of WMD's in Iraq and how they felt they had been lied to in the run-up to war. Anything but Bush was the original position and as Obama began to campaign on hope and change, they found an easy method to get behind. This was easier then sifting through Hil's ponderous position papers full of facts and numbers. The Right Wing media did their job...Fox News and others, but they were preaching to people who were not going to vote for Obama or who were going to reluctantly vote for him because of Bush and the economy.

Now we have the media who appears to be on the edge..not off the benadwagon yet, but indy's are taking notice. their bottom line matters. America and her place in the world matter. Barry has made a shambles of the Economy and talks down the US when he goes abroad. Thats not what this country was founded on. We're still center right, the libs have over-reached and completely ignored exactly what kind of Dem was elected in 2006. Europe is going Conservative. We have our Carter...England it appears will get their Thatcher soon, as Labor has destroyed England with their PC bullshit and on their way out.  We need our Reagan..or atleast our Newt to balance things in Congress. The parallel's to the late 70's are frightening.


 


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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2009, 01:00:35 AM »
Its all been there. The media has to act as the honest broker and they failed. They chose not to ask easy questions about who influenced Obama. They ignored what guys like Wright or more importantly, Ayers, ment to Obama. They were frightened of Obama's ethnic make-up. They were willing to sell out in order to defeat Bush, who they despised. They felt betrayed by the lack of WMD's in Iraq and how they felt they had been lied to in the run-up to war. Anything but Bush was the original position and as Obama began to campaign on hope and change, they found an easy method to get behind. This was easier then sifting through Hil's ponderous position papers full of facts and numbers. The Right Wing media did their job...Fox News and others, but they were preaching to people who were not going to vote for Obama or who were going to reluctantly vote for him because of Bush and the economy.

Now we have the media who appears to be on the edge..not off the benadwagon yet, but indy's are taking notice. their bottom line matters. America and her place in the world matter. Barry has made a shambles of the Economy and talks down the US when he goes abroad. Thats not what this country was founded on. We're still center right, the libs have over-reached and completely ignored exactly what kind of Dem was elected in 2006. Europe is going Conservative. We have our Carter...England it appears will get their Thatcher soon, as Labor has destroyed England with their PC bullshit and on their way out.  We need our Reagan..or atleast our Newt to balance things in Congress. The parallel's to the late 70's are frightening.

Flawless post.

Back in 2004 when Bush got re-elected many people dreaded that the pendulum would swing back too far to the left comes '08. Making a parallel with what happened in Europe in the last 30yrs is brilliant; the similarity towhat happened in the late 70's is indeed frightening.  :-\

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Re: Obama. the Radical Son.
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2009, 01:08:45 AM »
If obama continues alienating moderates, it'll be a reagan-like far-right republican in 2012.

I only hope it's someone with a modicum of intelligence, experience, and stability, calling for repsonsible spending and an end to the welfare mindset - and not just some religious nut.

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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2009, 03:09:05 AM »
Oh for god's sake people...the article was written in 1983...Im pretty sure you're allowed to have more radical views as a kid, but you all stand there and go 'hmmmm interesting the dude's a socialist for sure'...Most of the NeoConservatives were die hard libs when they were kids at college

I suppose most of you forgot that when they were all butfucking Cheney.

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 03:10:39 AM »
Now we have the media who appears to be on the edge..not off the benadwagon yet, but indy's are taking notice. their bottom line matters. America and her place in the world matter. Barry has made a shambles of the Economy and talks down the US when he goes abroad. Thats not what this country was founded on. We're still center right, the libs have over-reached and completely ignored exactly what kind of Dem was elected in 2006. Europe is going Conservative. We have our Carter...England it appears will get their Thatcher soon, as Labor has destroyed England with their PC bullshit and on their way out.  We need our Reagan..or atleast our Newt to balance things in Congress. The parallel's to the late 70's are frightening.

Labour fucked the country up, but if you think David Cameron is the new Margaret Thatcher your going to be disappointed.

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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2009, 05:32:43 AM »
Some of you people are gay, LOL!

I'd love to see what would happen if people had to defend every post made here.